Well, MOSH I followed you advice and removed the screws (yes they were screws and not rivets, my bad), and it came out great!!! But, like I said before there is more then one way to skin a cat and I would love to get the videos and try all the other ways to see which one I like the best. This time I was at the end of my deadline and had to act quick, and I'm happy to tell you this "the customer was delighted". Thanks to everyone and please keep doing what you're doing.