Vinyl for easy apply labels with no lam

[Micheal]

Hey guys so now that im back to solvent after printing my small labels are back to being a bit flimsy compared to the latex, since i dont lam whats the best material to use for temp stickers that have that thick feeling and easy apply?

I ordered brite line 6mil to test, has anyone use this?

 

[easystickerco]

I ran a bunch of decals on Orajet 6mil vinyl. Orajet 3258, not to soft & easy to weed.
https://www.orafol.com/en/americas/products/orajet-3258

 

[CanuckSigns]

We've had great luck with general formulations 6.mil semi-rigid vinyl, it prints and weeds great, and is thick enough to not go soft even with full ink coverage.

 

[relentlessgraphics]

I've also been using the Orajet 3258 for die-cut stickers with no laminate and can confirm it prints and weeds well, and has nice, heavy feel when applying.

 

[SameDay Signs]

Alpha 6 mil from Wensco is great, inexpensive and super easy to use

 

[Pideas]

We’ve had luck with the Briteline IM3222. It has a nice thick liner and the vinyl is not flimsy. We don’t laminate either.

 

[Christian @ Visual Graphx]

If its temp and replaceable you need to try EasyDOT, SpotOn, or BigFish's Dot Adhesive films... they are rigid and easy to apply, move, and remove with no tools required.

 

[SOLO_Fab]

I know this thread is a few years old but before I start a new thread I'll ask here. I started using Orajet 3258 for one of my bigger clients for all of his labels for his product lines so that I don't have to laminate and the decal keeps rigidity for application from his employees. He just called and said that his employees have stated that the decals are starting to curl off of the bottles and he stuck one to his truck yesterday and it's already curling off. I understand that if he didn't clean off the area of his truck that he stuck it to it will jeopardize the integrity of the sticker but what are everyone's experiences and thoughts? Is the 3258 junk vinyl or is there something else here?

 

[victor bogdanov]

I know this thread is a few years old but before I start a new thread I'll ask here. I started using Orajet 3258 for one of my bigger clients for all of his labels for his product lines so that I don't have to laminate and the decal keeps rigidity for application from his employees. He just called and said that his employees have stated that the decals are starting to curl off of the bottles and he stuck one to his truck yesterday and it's already curling off. I understand that if he didn't clean off the area of his truck that he stuck it to it will jeopardize the integrity of the sticker but what are everyone's experiences and thoughts? Is the 3258 junk vinyl or is there something else here?

What printer are you using? Solvent with heavy ink coverage cut without outgassing can cause vinyl to curl. Test an unprinted piece

 

[SOLO_Fab]

I'm using an epson sc80600L the curling I understand curling from solvent but this is the actual vinyl curling off of products like jars and bottles...the ink isn't laminated so it has definitely had plenty of time to off gas before application

 

[swordguy3222]

I'm using an epson sc80600L the curling I understand curling from solvent but this is the actual vinyl curling off of products like jars and bottles...the ink isn't laminated so it has definitely had plenty of time to off gas before application

My guess would be the vinyl itself. Some don't adhere well to low energy surfaces, like glass. If you like staying with Oracal, maybe try the 3164HT. We use 3M IJ39 for a lot of our high tac uses, and I also use the 80600L. There are also some Arlon and Drytac vinyls that would work well. The Arlon 8000 is crazy strong, but has the tendency to shrink a bit over time.

 

[VizualVoice]

My guess would be the vinyl itself. Some don't adhere well to low energy surfaces, like glass. If you like staying with Oracal, maybe try the 3164HT. We use 3M IJ39 for a lot of our high tac uses, and I also use the 80600L. There are also some Arlon and Drytac vinyls that would work well. The Arlon 8000 is crazy strong, but has the tendency to shrink a bit over time.

umm.... glass is usually considered a high energy surface that's generally easily "wetted out" or adhered to by adhesive molecules. If his jars and bottles are some sort of plastic (polyethylene, polypropylene, etc), then yeah it could be a low surface energy material .

 

[victor bogdanov]

the ink isn't laminated so it has definitely had plenty of time to off gas before application

Did you let the ink off gas before cutting, cutting too soon can cause curl

 

[Vassago]

What temperature is he placing / using them? Adhesives often get soft when hot, so hot bottles, hot truck + stiffish vinyl will result in curling