Need Help Wall Wraps

We use general formulation 226 everyday. Sometime, we could use 20 rolls per month with our latex without any problem so far. No lamination at all. But if a customer request lamination, I use liquid.

 

We do an adhesion test whenever possible. Our two main go-to vinyls are Avery 2611 and 3M IJ40. We will go to IJ35 or 180 if the first two don't pass the adhesion test.

Lamination will vary depending on traffic/location, but the majority do get laminated. We haven't had any mural failures in 5-6 years doing it this way, only on smaller (24x24) logo decals in an arena.

 

An adhesive test is definitely the best way to determine the proper vinyl but for smooth walls we normally stick with IJ40c with just the standard 3m laminate that they recommend but for more textured walls such as (cinder block/ brick) we have found that 480mC worked best for us!

 

I've created my own profile. I do so with all my materials.

 

+1 for IJ35

 

The GF 226 is a great photogex alternative. Is a very similar product, and is what we use for most of our wall wraps. The Arlon 8000 series is pretty aggressive in my opinion for wall wraps. Heaven forbid you have to pull it up and reposition. IJ 40 is ok, but is still vinyl. The GF 226 is a fabric essentially so it doesn’t have any shrinkage and can stay up with much less adhesion that vinyl would.

 

Sorry, you are right. It’s GF 234 graphitex that is similar to phototex. Mixed up the numbers.

 

phototex has an opaque version that eliminates the transparency issue

 

We used Phototex for a number of years but have now switched to Avery 2611 which works great, laminated or not.

 

Avery 2611 but if the surface is too heavily textured we use 3M 480. A bit spendy but it conforms and doesn't come off.

 

The problem isn't the material - its most likely LOW VOC paint or too much texture. You need to do wall adhesion tests. 3m sells them. But most of the time 3-4 alcohol washes does the trick. We use ij 180 CV3 with Oracal 210 Lam.

 

We have been using 226 as well, but have issues even with it falling down or not sticking well. Newer paints these days are hard to deal with using most anything.

 

We do a lot of wall wraps - adhesion in this order for smooth walls Avery 2611, 3m40c, 3m 35c. Anything more, scuff and alcohol wash or reprime w/ Zinsser 123. We matte laminate most; besides durability makes install a breeze. Finding Avery 2611 just doesn't have the bite for some newer VOC paints so moving away from that. Agree you should always do adhesion test.

 

Painted drywall, ij40c with lustre overlam has been my go to. Have not had a failure yet, knock on wood....

One thing to take in to strong consideration is the paint used on the wall. Oil based = no good. Also if the paint is too fresh = no good