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Week of morons

Boudica

I'm here for Educational Purposes
When we close earlier than out posted hours, we have a note we put up in the door... "sorry you missed us, we closed a bit early today. "Please call Name / Cell number"
It's not my number, so I don't know how many calls my boss receives, but at least they can talk to him, and if they have been warned that we would not be there, he can remind them of that and arrange for when they can come by.
 

Scotchbrite

No comment
This is exactly what's happening, though the customer will never admit it. I try to funnel everything into email so there's a paper trail, and even with simple written instructions/questions right in front of them, it's ignored.

I had an install scheduled on Friday PM and that morning made calls to every customer who had a job ready for pick up and let them know to please call ahead to make sure someone would be here. One of the morons in my original post got my message and decided to drive 50 miles to pick up his sign anyway and found the shop closed. I'm guessing people hear/see "Your sign is ready..." and don't have the attention span to continue listening or reading.

Shouldn't be my problem, yet I'm forced to deal with the aftermath of their stupidity.
We had a customer do something similar and when we reminded him of the entire message he said we didn't make it clear enough. :rolleyes:
 

gnubler

Active Member
I find this more and more common. I've started numbering my questions/points in hopes that they'll actually read/acknowledge a majority of them. 70% of the time, it works every time.
I actually had this idea over the weekend and am going to implement it in my email templates. The goal is to keep things simple and clear, not bombard people with tons of information that doesn't apply to their order.

I once requested a quote from a screen printing shop and received back what was probably the wordiest price quote I've ever seen, like, numerous paragraphs of information that was far too friendly & personal and full of exclamation points, a bunch of links to various types of apparel, and then the entire order process spelled out. Way too much too soon. I didn't even finish reading through it and never contacted them again, it was exhausting.
 

jochwat

Graphics Department
I actually had this idea over the weekend and am going to implement it in my email templates. The goal is to keep things simple and clear, not bombard people with tons of information that doesn't apply to their order.

I once requested a quote from a screen printing shop and received back what was probably the wordiest price quote I've ever seen, like, numerous paragraphs of information that was far too friendly & personal and full of exclamation points, a bunch of links to various types of apparel, and then the entire order process spelled out. Way too much too soon. I didn't even finish reading through it and never contacted them again, it was exhausting.
That's something I keep reminding myself to watch, but never do. I've gone back and re-read emails or replies where I try to explain the project details, or ask a question for clarification of an order, and I roll my eyes at myself for all the extra over-explaining. Glad this came up -- think I'll write myself a wordy note to knock it off.
 

gnubler

Active Member
When we close earlier than out posted hours, we have a note we put up in the door... "sorry you missed us, we closed a bit early today. "Please call Name / Cell number"
It's not my number, so I don't know how many calls my boss receives, but at least they can talk to him, and if they have been warned that we would not be there, he can remind them of that and arrange for when they can come by.
I do this, too. When I have to close the shop I have a sign on my door letting people know when I'll be back. If I'm out on a job site working or up on a ladder, I won't be taking any calls.

It's a head scratcher when you specifically tell people you'll be closed, and they show up anyway.
 

gnubler

Active Member
A lack of morons this week. Like, none!

Makes me wonder what's in store for next week. I'd rather deal with the occasional moron here & there, not all at once.
 

UpAndPrinting

DTF/DTG Printer Specialist
Yeah this really is the week for abrupt conflict for some reason. My longest standing client thinks they can agree to work and then not pay if they don't want to. It's a bummer because I'm also their webmaster for their very large business website. They're being beyond cheap and ignoring me after all the work is done. They could even be using my work without paying me because the proofs I sent are large enough to work with with a little crop skills. I don't want to think they would do that after so long. But they've been acting really stingy since I told them this project is a flat rate at this point for design services rendered. My asking price is still very fair for what I created and had to put up with from them.

Having 4 cooks in the kitchen playing telephone with you about what they think it should look like, 2 of which have an onset of Alzheimer's. I hate to say it, but after this project, I'm trying my best to be done with them. If they pay, I'll be quiet and host their site more. But if they ignore me for 6 more days, I'm sending a certified letter saying conflict of interest with a reverse invoice showing how much they've saved in fees for over 90 months saying they have 30 days to find a new web designer to migrate their domain because I'm deleting their database. That's one of about 4 issues this week. I'm in good spirits though.
 

Boudica

I'm here for Educational Purposes
Yeah this really is the week for abrupt conflict for some reason. My longest standing client thinks they can agree to work and then not pay if they don't want to. It's a bummer because I'm also their webmaster for their very large business website. They're being beyond cheap and ignoring me after all the work is done. They could even be using my work without paying me because the proofs I sent are large enough to work with with a little crop skills. I don't want to think they would do that after so long. But they've been acting really stingy since I told them this project is a flat rate at this point for design services rendered. My asking price is still very fair for what I created and had to put up with from them.

Having 4 cooks in the kitchen playing telephone with you about what they think it should look like, 2 of which have an onset of Alzheimer's. I hate to say it, but after this project, I'm trying my best to be done with them. If they pay, I'll be quiet and host their site more. But if they ignore me for 6 more days, I'm sending a certified letter saying conflict of interest with a reverse invoice showing how much they've saved in fees for over 90 months saying they have 30 days to find a new web designer to migrate their domain because I'm deleting their database. That's one of about 4 issues this week. I'm in good spirits though.
Age of the geek. You have the power over their lively hood via a website. Sounds like you have an upper hand. I hope you're just venting, (vs whining) but know you have the ultimate control of the situation.
 

netsol

Active Member
GNUBLER you are very lucky, if you are complaining about a week of morons.
i am at least at 20 YEARS & still counting
 

Eforcer

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1. Installed a sign last week. On Monday I emailed the customer and asked if they were happy with everything and included the final invoice. They said they love the sign, I figured payment would be forthcoming in a few days. This morning I get an email, "Can I get the final invoice for signage?" I just copied the contents of the previous email and resent it.

2. Emailed a proof and payment link to a customer, who responds with "Looks great thanks. We will send a chec" It ended there, so I figured they meant to type 'check'. A week or so passed without receiving payment so I emailed to see if they still wanted to get an order going. This was the response: "Yes we are still interested. I was under the assumption that it would be ready this. Was the $100 number the total? I thought I would receive an invoice. If you need the payment in advance that is fine. Let me know if you need a check or a credit card number."

3. Lately have been dealing with a few customers who are spending $1,000+ on a new sign, and then order a cheap window cling from Vistaprint or wherever and slap it on their storefront door, almost impossible to see behind tinted glass and full of bubbles. Looks like sh!t. I typically charge around $100 for a storefront door, cut vinyl logo and lettering, installed, and people are turning that down because "they can do it themselves".

4. I've been getting a lot of work from a local designer. I appreciate the business and I like her, but every single email and file I get from her is full of typos to the point where it makes her sound drunk (is she emailing her clients like this too?), and she has no concept of staying within one email chain per project so I'm juggling questions and answers across several threads, leading to confusion and madness. Constantly starting new emails when we already have a thread going for that project.

5. Got a big job from a designer done entirely in Papyrus, which may have been chosen by her client, but really she should have guided her client into using something else. Made my eyes water working on it. I had another customer come in and see the signs on the table...she looked at me and said "Papyrus?!" We both laughed.

6. The sailboat guy. He saw my van in a parking lot last week and asked if I do boat decals. I said yes and told him to email me a picture of the area of the boat where he wants the name to go and approximate measurements. A couple days later I get an email with a distant picture of the entire boat, in winter, partially covered with a tarp. Okay. I replied with a ballpark price and said installation cost will vary depending on if I go to the boat or if he brings it to my shop. Never heard back from him. Monday morning I arrived to find a sailboat dumped in front of my shop. No communication, didn't even have an order started yet. I was literally stupefied and had to wait a day before calling him...I can have a pretty hot temper at times. Spoke with him on Tuesday and explained the process, he apologized and wanted to proceed with an order. I emailed an invoice link requesting payment and this was the response: "That's great, how do I pay online?" I emailed the link again, this time the actual URL he could copy & paste in case it was getting stripped out. Two days have passed, no payment, boat still sitting here. I have very limited parking in my lot, and told him so. At this point I'm dropping this order and if the boat isn't gone by the weekend it will be towed next week.
At this point what Cher would say...Snap out of it! But you are going thru a horrible nightmare. We feel your pain...





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UpAndPrinting

DTF/DTG Printer Specialist
Age of the geek. You have the power over their lively hood via a website. Sounds like you have an upper hand. I hope you're just venting, (vs whining) but know you have the ultimate control of the situation.
Thank you for your response. You caught me about a day into their annoyances so you heard an ear full. Now that the dust has settled, I'm happy knowing you are right, I have full control of the situation. I'm still waiting to receive payment for the design work now. But the end result of not having to deal with their antics is worth taking a hit on the project they agreed to pay for if they don't pay. So it's a slow burn win-win for me now. haha

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Update: They finally paid.
 
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gnubler

Active Member
Me: Your signs are still in production and will be ready to pick up tomorrow morning.
Customer: Great! I'll pick them up tonight.

(I'm not even replying to that and will conveniently not be here tonight)
 
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