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White on transparant for small labels

Discussion in 'Labels and Decals' started by timstudio, Nov 25, 2020.

  1. timstudio

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    Hi There,

    for a client who sells nailpolish product i produce a lot of labels. Most are printed on white labels. Client now wants a product range with glass enclosure. My Roland printer has no white inkt option. So i'm looking into labelprinters that can print solid white on transparant. Anybody has an idea?
    Outsourcing is not profitable (large diversity of products with low quantity per product.)
     

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  2. MikePatterson

    MikePatterson Head bathroom cleaner.

    Buy a gerber edge and plotter. Probably still not profitable but at least you get tot buy a printer and plotter.
     
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  3. timstudio

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    Lol, but only if you tell my wife. The Gerber option isn't going to do it. That really is way to expensive. No problem if it is a couple of thousand, but that's my limit. There are others out there who will be able to provide the needed decals for the client. I know she won't move over all the other labels to a competitor since it's a close friend. Just trying to figure out if I can provide without losing money. Reselling isn't an option, because I do not want to be responsible for work of others.
     
  4. KatePhillips

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    We run a Roland XR-640 without white, and we have to outsource this kind of thing to local printers that have the white capabilities. We get so very few people asking for this product that it wouldn't make any sense and buying the machines for it would never pay for themselves... how many labels like this do you get requests for?
     
  5. Gino

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    Do you have any screen printers with circular type screens over there ?? That would be the most economical method.
     
  6. Dan360

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    We throw this kind of stuff on our OKI, normally used for heat transfers. I believe they have an under 5k option with white ink. Just run on ULine clear labels, bonus if you can find precut to the size you need.
     
  7. Marie

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    Could you gang up the various decal layouts and send them to S365? They have a clear vinyl and can contour cut the decals.
     
  8. WYLDGFI

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    We run on our UV printer all the time stuff like that.
     
  9. CanuckSigns

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    Buy a used Gerber edge for $2000 and do them on there, the edges are.tanks and will run forever
     
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  10. P Wagner

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    Why not run white on your S80600? Wouldn't that be more more cost effective?
     
  11. CanuckSigns

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    For the 2-3 small jobs a year we get asked about it's not worth setting up the white in our Epson, I have a white cartridge, but I've never used it. My understanding is that it takes about an hour to prepare the machine for the white ink, then another hour to take it out after, wasting a bunch of cleaning fluid in the process. The gerber edge des a great job for small white prints, and anything else I either outsource, do in cut vinyl or turn away.
     
  12. Zendavor Signs

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    I don't understand why reselling is not an option. If you cannot resell and make a little money, you will never make money printing them yourself. If you think S365 and others are charging too much, you are not charging enough.
     
  13. IsItFasst

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    I feel your pain. I turn away jobs weekly that need white on clear as they are too small of jobs to outsource. I have a Roland VSi sitting here with cleaning fluid cartridges in place of the white/silver spots since I've heard such horror stories about the specialty inks. Every so often I consider offering white on clear as the jobs would be decent profits for the small size to possibly make it worth the hassle but y'all keep talking me out of it when reading posts on here.
     
  14. bigben

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    I have a gerber edge II and hate to use this thing. So fu%*$ expensive to run and too much time to setup the file.

    I'm in the process to buy a machine to print rolled label. They are not very expensive, but when you start talking white, you almost double the price. The basic setup I've found is around 12K$ when you can have a really good cmyk only for around 5k$
     
  15. Bubba06

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    Get a pad printer and tell them to bring you the bottles.
     
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  16. stxrmxn

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    We have a Mimaki CJV 130 with white and silver. No maintenance needed at all.
    Machine asks for the cartridges to be shaken up every 12 hours because of the pigments i guess but i dont even bother doing that and they print just fine whenever needed.
    Heard horror stories about white and silver on solvent printers before, but if you want a machine that has the options and you simply dont have to worry about them until you need to use them then i highly reccomend this model.
     
  17. Bubba06

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  18. SignMeUpGraphics

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    Out of curiosity, what machine are you looking at in that price range?
     
  19. SH10151

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    Get a cheap thermal transfer printer and buy a white ribbon for it. The multi color thermal transfer printers like the Gerber edge are expensive because they print multiple colors. Single color printers are cheap.
     
  20. netsol

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    exactly my thoughts.
    for this it doesn't need to be an edge fx, an edge 2 will do fine & you can use zeronine foils
     
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