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Who knows how to fix "destroyed" print heads?

Discussion in 'Newbie Forum' started by ibikestickers, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. ibikestickers

    ibikestickers New Member

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    Hey all,

    I'm new to digital printing. In fact, I haven't really started. Been window tinting for 16+ years, and doing cut vinyl for 7 or 8.
    I just bought a Mutoh Falcon II outdoor 64" on ebay and there are definite nozzle problems, as disclosed by the seller. I've been trying to do research while I wait for my printer to arrive from California so that I know what I'll need to get the machine going. There are the printhead doctor and the printhead911 products/services, but not much about them is discussed here on this forum.

    Some people claim that just about any printhead can be recovered with the right chemicals and methods, and the above mentioned companies claim that their products are special and can do recoveries that you can't do without their stuff.
    On the other hand, maybe the standard cleaning fluids that are made for regular printer maintenance are capable of doing anything needed.
    Ok, so, any input? who here has recovered print heads that would've been considered destroyed? is it true that people save thousands of dollars fixing clogged printheads? Or, is clogged done?
    Thanks for any help!
     
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  2. smdgrfx

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    Easier to replace and start with fresh heads. Cleaning them can be frustrating and time consuming. The last time I had a problem, I just replaced and was so much happier. Good luck!!
     
  3. ibikestickers

    ibikestickers New Member

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    Thanks for the feedback!
     
  4. SlightlyChilled

    SlightlyChilled Very Active Member

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    Hell
    thats 800.00 bucks just FYI
     
  5. ibikestickers

    ibikestickers New Member

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    Yes, that's why I'd like to be able to clean them! I paid 2500 for the printer so I think I can justify spending more money on it but I'm a DIYer and hate spending unnecessary money (of course, I'm not unique in that regard)
    Also, I've read that if you don't know how to clean clogged print heads, you'll end up replacing them more often because they eventually clog over time regardless of how well you maintain your printer.
    Of course, that may just be the propaganda of the companies that sell the cleaning systems.
     
  6. Banners Signs Etc.

    Banners Signs Etc. Active Member

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    take em out
    cover the electronics with tape
    let the business ends sit in cleaning solution overnight in a bowl of some kind
    then using a syringe try to force -clean- cleaning fluid through them.
    you should be able to see them jetting not dripping
    put them back in and request a service manual from someone on this forum
     
  7. jbennett

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    I have always heard to never force cleaning fluid through a head, especially the Epsons. (I have a DX5 with missing black nozzles); however, I am now commonly seeing folks saying that they are doing this. Does it work, or tear up more heads than you will ever fix? I'm sure if someone was going to attempt it that they'd need to be ready to buy a new head just in case. Thoughts?

    jbennett
     
  8. J Hill Designs

    J Hill Designs Major Contributor

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    just dont force force it. push gently.
     
  9. CheapVehicleWrap

    CheapVehicleWrap Very Active Member

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    Actually suck it rather than blow it.
     
  10. FatCat

    FatCat Very Active Member

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    Saved the DX5 head on my (new to me) 1604 by ultimately doing this and repeated head soaks. I filled a clean syringe with solvent and attached a line between it's nozzle and the nozzle on the manifold. "Gently" is the key word here, just barely enough pressure to make it trickle. On a DX5 you won't get a steady stream like you would on a Dx4 with bigger nozzles. It's basically going to pool and drip from the bottom of the head.
     
  11. ibikestickers

    ibikestickers New Member

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    I've tried flushing one dx4 printhead, and I'm wondering how straight the streams should be relative to one another? I'm still working on cleaning it more thoroughly but an initial cleaning seems to have all the nozzles squirting, but with a little bit of inconsistency in the angle, particularly past 1/4 inch away from the head and beyond.
     
  12. ruckusman

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    If you force the cleaning fluid through the DX4 heads with too much pressure there is a risk of delaminatiing the partition betwen both sides.

    How do I know...yep you guessed it, done it myself

    Better to draw the liquid through from a small reservior below, at least at first, that way at lest some nozzles will be clear enough to alleviate internal pressure when pushing cleaning fluid through.

    Using enough pressure to get a straight stream like that shown in the printhead doctor videos on youtube is too much and may delaminate the partition

    peace out
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2012
  13. Hoop2125

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    What about the Printhead Doctor, does it work?
     
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