Wrapping a trailer with... nothing

[ikarasu]

I dont like 3M 1080... Too many glue lines and other issues. Avery gloss is better, as is Vivvids.

Vivvid is more thick / easier to work with, especially in heat.

https://vvividshop.com/products/gloss-white Ignore the list price... if you open a business acct with them you get around 20% off. They also allow orders in 5 FT increments, which is nice for jobs like this.


IJ35 / 40 is thick enough that you shouldn't need an overlam, especially since you've wrapped before. Flat application is easy... you should be able to get by with anything.

 

[Gino]

Something I don't get??

Because it's hot and miserable where one is, determines the vinyl to be used ?? Instead of finding a proper place in which to produce a good finished product, you're gonna sacrifice quality for ease of use ??

Seems like an odd statement or policy for a professional business. How much dust and dirt, bugs and whatever else is in the air do you get on one of your install ??

 

[Texas_Signmaker]

How much dust and dirt, bugs and whatever else is in the air do you get on one of your install ??

None

Because it's hot and miserable where one is, determines the vinyl to be used ?? Instead of finding a proper place in which to produce a good finished product, you're gonna sacrifice quality for ease of use ??

You've never applied vinyl outside before? Ever do a "storefront wrap"? ..... Sheltered boy...

 

[Gino]

Twice you mentioned how difficult it will be for you, hence my question why not to find the proper place to do it ??

Your words, not mine.... Inept Boy....​

but its summer here and I was worried thin cast would be tricky outdoors when its 100+ outside.

it's impossible to do wraps in the Texas summer sun.

Besides, we're not talking about storefronts.​

 

[fuzzy_cam]

I'm open to cast, but its summer here and I was worried thin cast would be tricky outdoors when its 100+ outside. Would IJ40 be OK?

I was just going to recommend IJ40. Cheap and works great on flat surfaces. I would lam with a cheap cast lam so that it saved time on install.

 

[Marlene]

Here's a question, does it have to be plain old white? Seems like a good chance to upsell and talk them into adding color, a photo or something.

 

[Johnny Best]

Twice you mentioned how difficult it will be for you, hence my question why not to find the proper place to do it ??

Your words, not mine.... Inept Boy....​

but its summer here and I was worried thin cast would be tricky outdoors when its 100+ outside.

it's impossible to do wraps in the Texas summer sun.

Besides, we're not talking about storefronts.​

Give Tex some slack Gino. He is hustling and working hard to learn the ropes. Pretty soon after he saves a little money he will mortgage the house, get a HP printer, laminator and a warehouse. Start to hire employees, come on here and complain about how they don't have the same mindset as his. Talk about the economy and the state of the government tariffs on steel and aluminum. Then building his business up with 10 employees and putting his kids through college with a vacation home in Oklahoma.
Then one day his wife shows up and finds him with his accountant fooling around on his office desk.
His wife takes him for everything he has and his daughter who majored in economics takes over the company and takes it nationally.
Tex then goes back to putting vinyl on trailers under the bridge where he now lives.

 

[fresh]

I'd use avery 750 easy apply. Its calendared with air release, and its awesome. I KNOW everyone says to never, ever use cal outdoors, but i have used avery 700/750 on tons of projects, and have never had a problem or failure. We have signs on the back of our shop that are 11 years old with the stuff, and from 10 feet away, they still look great. 3 years ago, they were still perfect, they only started cracking recently, and there is no shrinkage or peeling.

 

[fuzzy_cam]

Give Tex some slack Gino. He is hustling and working hard to learn the ropes. Pretty soon after he saves a little money he will mortgage the house, get a HP printer, laminator and a warehouse. Start to hire employees, come on here and complain about how they don't have the same mindset as his. Talk about the economy and the state of the government tariffs on steel and aluminum. Then building his business up with 10 employees and putting his kids through college with a vacation home in Oklahoma.
Then one day his wife shows up and finds him with his accountant fooling around on his office desk.
His wife takes him for everything he has and his daughter who majored in economics takes over the company and takes it nationally.
Tex then goes back to putting vinyl on trailers under the bridge where he now lives.

You guys are rough!

 

[Gino]

Give Tex some slack Gino. He is hustling and working hard to learn the ropes. Pretty soon after he saves a little money he will mortgage the house, get a HP printer, laminator and a warehouse. Start to hire employees, come on here and complain about how they don't have the same mindset as his. Talk about the economy and the state of the government tariffs on steel and aluminum. Then building his business up with 10 employees and putting his kids through college with a vacation home in Oklahoma.
Then one day his wife shows up and finds him with his accountant fooling around on his office desk.
His wife takes him for everything he has and his daughter who majored in economics takes over the company and takes it nationally.
Tex then goes back to putting vinyl on trailers under the bridge where he now lives.

I thought you were talking about ams for a second................... got my coordinates mixed up.

 

[Texas_Signmaker]

Thanks for the glimpse into the future, I'll make sure to get a comfortable desk.

 

[Johnny Best]

Thanks for the glimpse into the future, I'll make sure to get a comfortable desk.

Yea and don’t hire that young boy as your accountant!

 

[Gino]

Cardboard box.

 

[Pixels Are Bad Mmmkay?]

I recommend 3M 1080 along with many others here. It's a good solid product and it's fairly thick and easy to handle.

 

[JimmyG]

One important thing to consider Texas is that most always with old aluminum cargo trailers is that the original paint turns "chaulky" from age and will require pressure washing and complete scotchbrite scrub all over. Without such no brand or type vinyl is gonna stick well...
Just a thought...~

 

[Texas_Signmaker]

One important thing to consider Texas is that most always with old aluminum cargo trailers is that the original paint turns "chaulky" from age and will require pressure washing and complete scotchbrite scrub all over. Without such no brand or type vinyl is gonna stick well...
Just a thought...~

Thanks, Yes I factored that into my bid this morning...its moldy and chalky

 

[JimmyG]

Yeah, "scotchbrite on a stick" will give ya a real workout in 100 degree heat...LOL we get near that heat in south Gawja....~

 

[2B]

got to love it when an old trailer shows up, the customer claims it is clean and ready for install.
you wipe a finger across it and turn the finger chalky white, the customer usually just stare wanting to know why extra cleaning is needed and why will it take longer.

in addition to the Scotch-Brite, we use LA's Totally Awesome All Purpose Concentrated Cleaner at full strength.
speeds the process up and leaves a cleaner surface

 

[ddarlak]

but can I charge a few grand for it?

If you have to ask, I'd guess no.

I would though.

 

[Pat Whatley]

Would IJ40 be OK?

That's what we would use. The trailers are flat, IJ40 is made for that. You can use a white color change wrap vinyl but if you're doing it outside in the heat you're gonna hate that stuff. it will stretch in the wrong places and the at the wrong time every time.