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Zelle scams keep popping up

rjssigns

Active Member
Only thing I use is Square and I don't use it that much. Are there cheaper services? Yup, but I don't have to deal with compliance issues or any other related BS.
 

binki

New Member
We have PayPal but don't use it any more. When we changed our credit card terminal we went with a hand held that can tether off our phones mobil data. We can now take it on the road, print receipts and all the other good stuff we do with our merchant processor.
 

Solventinkjet

DIY Printer Fixing Guide
Yup, but I don't have to deal with compliance issues or any other related BS.
Filling out the PCI compliance paperwork is one of the most frustrating things to do. And at the end of the day it does literally nothing to enhance security because there is no enforcement at all!
 

binki

New Member
Filling out the PCI compliance paperwork is one of the most frustrating things to do. And at the end of the day it does literally nothing to enhance security because there is no enforcement at all!
Yeah, PCI is a waste of time for a small shop like ours. We don't store or keep credit card numbers and we use our merchant processor website for certification and also their equipment or website to process payments. We don't have a web store. Everything is done local and 99% of our orders are swiped cards.
 

Mr. Signboy

New Member
We don't use any of these services. I am seeing a lot of news stories lately about Zelle but other payment apps like CashApp have the same problem. Be careful if you use these. The same is true if you have crypto wallets.

Zelle is extremely secure, this isn’t a weak spot on their end. Anyone who falls for a scam like this is a walking target anyway. It would be just as easy to gain access to anything they have using the same technique, all the scammer is doing is asking for your login info. If you don’t give it out, they dont get anything from you. Bottom line, don’t give out info over the phone, and you’ll be fine.
 

Retro Graphics

New Member
Zelle is extremely secure, this isn’t a weak spot on their end. Anyone who falls for a scam like this is a walking target anyway. It would be just as easy to gain access to anything they have using the same technique, all the scammer is doing is asking for your login info. If you don’t give it out, they dont get anything from you. Bottom line, don’t give out info over the phone, and you’ll be fine.
my day job is Cyber Security and this is absolutely spot on. that is the #1 cause of most "hacks" or compromises.,
 

netsol

Active Member
my day job is Cyber Security and this is absolutely spot on. that is the #1 cause of most "hacks" or compromises.,
An attorney friend of mine (i am a computer consultant) was explaining how he was "compromised"
He got a phone call from microsoft (?) and had to go to walgreens and purchase $2500 in visa gift cards and enter the codes into a website the gave him. REALLY? this is mot a stipid man NORMALLY
it amazes me, how long we can suspend our common sense

Think for a minute how long this must have taken. (25) $100 gift cards
Not a second thought or a misgiving for what had to be 20 minutes, at best

I know i am taking us off topic, up to a point, but how did we become so stupid/trusting?

We had another usually smart client talked into giving the routing number, acct. number and credentials to 3 accounts to setup payment for a phony microsoft scam
 

Texas_Signmaker

Very Active Signmaker
An attorney friend of mine (i am a computer consultant) was explaining how he was "compromised"
He got a phone call from microsoft (?) and had to go to walgreens and purchase $2500 in visa gift cards and enter the codes into a website the gave him. REALLY? this is mot a stipid man NORMALLY
it amazes me, how long we can suspend our common sense

Think for a minute how long this must have taken. (25) $100 gift cards
Not a second thought or a misgiving for what had to be 20 minutes, at best

I know i am taking us off topic, up to a point, but how did we become so stupid/trusting?

We had another usually smart client talked into giving the routing number, acct. number and credentials to 3 accounts to setup payment for a phony microsoft scam
They have all kinds of scams. When I was in IT, it was common that the scammers would claim to have a video of the user jacking off while screen capturing their computer screen and threaten to email it to their contact list. Another scam was to plant child porn and extort for $. Or encrypt their files and hold for randsome.
 

netsol

Active Member
They have all kinds of scams. When I was in IT, it was common that the scammers would claim to have a video of the user jacking off while screen capturing their computer screen and threaten to email it to their contact list. Another scam was to plant child porn and extort for $. Or encrypt their files and hold for randsome.
One of my favorite female realtors called me, asking if she should pay, from one of these extortion schemes.
I asked het, you haven't been going to porno sites?
She said no, of course not, but her husband might
 

Stacey K

I like making signs
I use my Zelle account to collect rent. Works great! No more checks or cash to deposit, no more receipts to write out, no more excuses for late rent!
 

netsol

Active Member
I kind of find the little piece of paper, coming in yhr mail reassuring

You reaize there is nothing in zelle that keeps the rent arriing on time, you obviously have good renters
 

Texas_Signmaker

Very Active Signmaker
Zeele and payment apps are essentially wire transfers. Once the money is transferred, it's very difficult to get it back. The problem is when people get scammed and cry and blame Zelle.

On the flip side... If your account is hacked and Zelle was used to drain your account, they should be 100% responsible and need a law stating such
 

netsol

Active Member
Texas signmaker
It's like the difference between your card. Number being used as a credit card (all sorts of ways to reverse the transaction) and being used as a debit card (THE TRANSACTION IS CARVED IN STONE AND CAN NOT BE REVERSED, without jumping through all sorts of hoops)
 

binki

New Member
Zelle is extremely secure, this isn’t a weak spot on their end. Anyone who falls for a scam like this is a walking target anyway. It would be just as easy to gain access to anything they have using the same technique, all the scammer is doing is asking for your login info. If you don’t give it out, they dont get anything from you. Bottom line, don’t give out info over the phone, and you’ll be fine.
I didn't say it wasn't. There are, however, many problems with these cash apps. So much so my banks are sending me warning letters and when I go to their website I get a great big warning. That tells me there is a problem. The scams are not all asking for your login info, it is getting you to send money to the scammer when you think you are doing a legitimate purchase. The downside is these transactions are irreversable. That is what makes them susceptable to the scams more than credit card scams since all credit cards in the USA are protected from fraudulent transactions over $50 but as far as I know all credit card issuers cover 100% of fraud transactions.
 

caribmike

Retired with a Side Hustle
We don't use any of these services. I am seeing a lot of news stories lately about Zelle but other payment apps like CashApp have the same problem. Be careful if you use these. The same is true if you have crypto wallets.

My shop doesn't accept any of those fancy new payment methods. I take VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover, cash and checks. Our government accounts pay by direct deposit ACH. Although I have a PayPal account, we don't offer this as a form of payment. Cash is of course, my favorite.
 

binki

New Member
Bank of America sent an email today warning of scams with Zelle. They created the app along with Wells Fargo. Along with that are a few more news stories of scams. Typical, I over pay you with a check and ask you to transfer the money to me via a cash app. Red flags all over the place on that one.
 
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