HA! Is this my co-worker tawkin? I to have had multi issues with the lt cy/mg in these things. look at it this way...(they just need 2 instead of 1)
YOU ARE NOT ALONE! in this fight.
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New HP Latex printers L560 and L570
- Thread starter dale911
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HA! Is this my co-worker tawkin? I to have had multi issues with the lt cy/mg in these things. look at it this way...(they just need 2 instead of 1)
YOU ARE NOT ALONE! in this fight.
dypinc
New Member
The more I use only CMYK with 10pass and under the more I find it not necessary to use lc and lm. I would bet that the 500s will not allow lc and lm in low pass settings with the highest ink settings. That might be how they will get around the problem of having the lc/lm printhead close to the closest optimizer head.
"30-35% faster"
This is very misleading information IMO.
Unless they increase the carriage speed or swath width which i highly doubt, 6pass speed for example will still be the same as 360 6pass speed.
I think running higher ink loads at lower pass rates might be more accurate. ie 6pass 120ink, yes i can get 120ink down faster.
The vapor removal system is much appreciated though, curious to see if they have given the unit a higher duty cycle also. 1000m per month is not a lot of printing.
This is very misleading information IMO.
Unless they increase the carriage speed or swath width which i highly doubt, 6pass speed for example will still be the same as 360 6pass speed.
I think running higher ink loads at lower pass rates might be more accurate. ie 6pass 120ink, yes i can get 120ink down faster.
The vapor removal system is much appreciated though, curious to see if they have given the unit a higher duty cycle also. 1000m per month is not a lot of printing.
Higher Ink limits
So I have these now and when you build a new profile you get an extra generic media to base your profile on named "Vivid" - the pass rates are restricted to the higher ones eg 12, 16 & 20p and they have extra headroom on the ink limits eg 12p gives a spread up to 185% for SAV for example.
However the standard generic profile build has also had a lift in the ink limits eg for SAV 8p it now goes to 120%, 6p up to 100% and 4p up to 80% so there's more gamut now on the faster passes too.
Not had enough time yet to make a solid call but the 6p at 100% does compare well to the 8p 100% on my 370 - looking like HP can back up the "speed" increase statement at the moment.
So I have these now and when you build a new profile you get an extra generic media to base your profile on named "Vivid" - the pass rates are restricted to the higher ones eg 12, 16 & 20p and they have extra headroom on the ink limits eg 12p gives a spread up to 185% for SAV for example.
However the standard generic profile build has also had a lift in the ink limits eg for SAV 8p it now goes to 120%, 6p up to 100% and 4p up to 80% so there's more gamut now on the faster passes too.
Not had enough time yet to make a solid call but the 6p at 100% does compare well to the 8p 100% on my 370 - looking like HP can back up the "speed" increase statement at the moment.
twmiller24
New Member
Actually, on both the HP forum and this one, these issues are well documented. and Dypinc in particular has been relentless in trying to get HP to address them.
Updated firmware has improved the color consistency issues, and we no longer have to replace the light magenta/light cyan head every week, but enabling the printer to run continuously (without cooling between every job) would be a very helpful firmware update.
dypinc
New Member
I have been told there is supposed to be another firmware release coming out later this summer to address issues with the lc/lm printhead. As to updated firmware again invalidating previous calibrations and profiles that remains to be seen.
As to enabling the 300 series printers to run continuously (without cooling between every job), I am told it is in the works but will be in a later firmware release. Still scratching my head as to why the 300's were ever released without this ability when the previous models had this ability.
BigfishDM
Merchant Member
No, the 360 isn't going anywhere. The 500 is more of a replacement to the 370 plus some new bells and whistles.
dypinc
New Member
I am really surprised that we have not heard more about these 500 machine. Especially hitting higher gamut at lower passes that is a limitation of the 300 machines.
Is anyone having issues with excessive wasted from crashes and feed out on small prints. On the new 560 the curing section is much longer than our older 25500. Many times the vinyl touches the top of the curing section since this area angles down and the material is coming out straight. Not much thinking must have went into that one. Anyway, I believe there is some residual adhesive on the top of this section that grabs anything coming though. Since it is so deep, you can't reach up in there to clean it without disassembly. This is certainly not a printer tat can be left unattended. We have to watch it until the first couple feet of material comes out on every job otherwise the material backs up and the head crashes into it.
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is my biggest issue. I've even tried attaching a scrap leader to it, and I still have crashes. This thing runs great, IF you start with 3' of material hanging out, and let it run a BIG long job. But for running one-sie, two-sie prints, I am throwing away as much in waste as I am printing on.
This thing definitely needs some of sort of pressure roller right at the opening to the curing unit, to keep the vinyl down and feeding through. Maybe the 600 series will have that?