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Convert to Paths (/Outlines/Curves).....Open in Illustrator FIRST.....save it as an Illustrator EPS ......then open it in your plotter programs. ~Gear

Hey Doug, I hear ya. And to be honest, I like the newer Windows machines with XP just fine. It's just that in the past....I couldn't get nearly as much done in the day due to all the crashes and freezes on the Win 95, 98, 2000, NT (worst one of all) and ME. Yikes! My Macs just have...

Oh, no 2Niner....let's not get started now......:tongue: oh, what the hell.....let's. I had the exact same 512....did lots of "drawing" with MacDraw and MacPaint. However, I have seriously been with Mr. Job's machines since Illustrator88. Remember during that time when Steve Jobs had tried...

Get a Mac. :thumb:

"Triumvirate" (casMate), "Swiss", "Nimbus"....all are based on Helvetica..... basically the same any way you look at it. Okay, the purists among us will now enter in and deftly spank me for saying that....rightfully so.....I do appologize. :tongue: However, these are VERY similar...

All of the companys aren't offering upgrades , like the old days, because they are writing them to work with XP and Mac OSX. ~gear

You know what Eric? I didn't even try Helvetica, just because I figured that since it's supposed to be a "new logo" they may not have started with old Helv. But, you are right. My bad for rushing. Fun stuff to do though. :wink: I did notice when I slanted the font....it didn't work as...

Yeah, Techman, it's all based on Arial Bold. It's a pretty cool logo....sort of "80s-ish" but, that's okay. They say I'm a "little dated" as well. hahaha! Hey, SignOne....don't take it so hard. I wasn't accusing you of fishin for a freebie. I was just showin' off. I've always been...

So whatever...just for shidz and giggles here's what I did in 20 minutes. On the house.....hehe

Exactly Mr. Harley Man! I could recreate that in about 1/2 hour or less. Blow the jpg up for a template....lock it in a sub layer....and have at it on top of it. Extend Helvetica Demi or Arial (whichever is closer) convert to paths, tweak away. The icon part of the logo is about 5 minutes...

Yep. Similar here. However, I'm a Mac preferred user primarily that really like the features of both. My take on it anymore is that what you've "grown up with" is what works best. I've been with Illustrator since '88 but honestly enjoy the features in Corel. Corel has grown to be more...

Yep. Optima Bold with a bevel. Not "murdered". Tweaked well actually. :wink: ~g.

Mac lover here. I'm about to get a new g5. Oh, Lordy.....I'm going to be in heaven!!! I did look at the Quad, but, honestly....I'm not into heavy duty 3D rendering and I'm not a super freak about the new hot rod games so....the dual will do just fine. My g4 is still cranking thinks out...

I would trust LXi over a company that is barely know. "Cipher"??? Is that really their name? hmmmmm....never heard of it. A little history, LXi was created by Flexi....which, know it or not, has been one of the best sign software builders for a very long time. For me, as a Mac user...

Welcome Hey Ed, I'm from Hanford. I just joined a couple days ago my own dang self! I'm an old school painter-with-a-plotter as well. :wink: Getting ready for the heat? :cool1: ~Gear

Hey Welcome from Hanford. I'm new to the board as well. Been around hundred years though in the biz. :rolleyes: Nice stickers! :wink: ~gear

Continued thanks for the "welcomes" . This is the real deal I can tell. And so prolific in numbers! Wow. That's great. Good to be here . I live in Hanford, CA ....near Fresno "Uneedasign". Chico is considered Northern Cal. I'm exactly half way between LA and SF. :) Now, I can't...

Market Bearing Well, my .02 is with what Doug said. And yes, it is a "chunk" to break off with the initial outlay. However, Flexi and all of the other sign-based programs are only as expensive as the market share. There are MILLIONS of units of Illustrator, Photoshop, Corel and Canvas(my...

Thanks for the awesome greeting you guys! Fred: I just have to say right off the bat, I love the header of "Signs 101" ...it's got that "Behounek meets Stevens" look to it that I've always found attractive in layouts. :cool1: Chat atchu'all later~! ~gear

Hey There, I'm Geary from Hanford, California. :unclesam: I'm an old sign painter, designer, artist, musician type and a proud child of the 60s. Okay...maybe not THAT proud. At any rate, I'm new here and I like what I see so far. Very nice site. :thumb: I've been at the sign biz...