4x4' 10mm coro, Double sided

[john1]

Hey guys, Just wanted to price check my pricing on 1 double sided 4x4' 10mm coro. 1 color cut vinyl lettering, 4 lines in arial bold font

A partner of mine is selling this for $160 and i come up with $276

I know i am making money at $276 and it covers my time, materials, shop rate etc but maybe i need to dis-value coro signs altogether since they have a low perceived value but hold up extremely well. I price all signs as i would any others in Signvox.

Thanks all!

 

[Salmoneye]

Are you bidding against your partner? With the layout sounds like the job will be done as soon as it starts. I would be a few dollars less than the price you have there? Prices vary quite a bit between one shop and another. Some you will be higher, some lower; we don't have to chase every price.

 

[Locals Find!]

I get $320 installed with posts. $250 uninstalled.

I would say your partner is a bit on the low side for a 1 off. I would only use his pricing for a Contractor if they were doing a steady bit of business with me.

 

[john1]

Thanks guys, guess I'm not too off then.

He usually sends me sign jobs and had already bid this before asking what I would wholesale it to him for. I actually thought I was kinda high but guess not

 

[J Hill Designs]

i mean, 1 color cut vinyl, could be banged out in like half an hour...

 

[Gino]

i mean, 1 color cut vinyl, could be banged out in like half an hour...

It's not about what the actual sign's perceived value is, but what can I get for this thing.


So, if I/me can get $500 for it and that includes some design time, proofs, high end vinyl and laminate..... you can get it for the same putting $15. worth of sans serif vinyl which took less than 30 minutes total. Yeah, that's the ticket. There's a definite well planned and orchestrated pattern going on here.............

 

[john1]

Thanks Gino, Yeah i mean coroplast signs are perceived as low value for whatever reason but they hold up very well outdoors. I am not sure why my partner is using coroplast on this job but i am sure the customer wanted something cheap and this is the easiest substrate to work with even though for the right amount you could have went dibond or econolite depending on where it's going.

 

[HulkSmash]

~224 here.

that doesn't include design. That's just a 4x4 10 mil coro.

 

[Gino]

Thanks Gino, Yeah i mean coroplast signs are perceived as low value for whatever reason but they hold up very well outdoors. I am not sure why my partner is using coroplast on this job but i am sure the customer wanted something cheap and this is the easiest substrate to work with even though for the right amount you could have went dibond or econolite depending on where it's going.

One thing you've got to get through your head. ANY Cor-x is considered 'Bottom-of-the-Barrel' substrate. Cor-X is not considered an outdoor product by any vendor..... not even 1/2" or 1" thick. It is only a temporary outdoor substrate. Most is two years, with many barely lasting 1 year, before they turn to paper and disintegrate.

Last week, we did a 4' x 7' intricate map on Cor-X. The customer gave us the file and it was one of the best customer generated files I've seen in a long time. We took a super inexpensive material, put it through the printer and just gave it to her. It was a Cancer bike and walk-a-thon. Worth to us was about $25. to her... piceless and she said she would give our name out to lotsa people. I told her not to let anyone know we donated it.

I don't care if a get one call or not, but back to your story.... this was used for three days, while yours is being used as a permanent outdoor sign. All the same stuff went into yours as mine. How can you say the sign is worth $250 or $275 when it's only worth about $25 ?? Sure, the value of it is more..... maybe $150 or $175, but it's not a permanent sign in the slightest.

I'm all for making what you can on each and every project, but misrepresenting your products is gonna come back to bite you in the arse.

 

[john1]

One thing you've got to get through your head. ANY Cor-x is considered 'Bottom-of-the-Barrel' substrate. Cor-X is not considered an outdoor product by any vendor..... not even 1/2" or 1" thick. It is only a temporary outdoor substrate. Most is two years, with many barely lasting 1 year, before they turn to paper and disintegrate.

Last week, we did a 4' x 7' intricate map on Cor-X. The customer gave us the file and it was one of the best customer generated files I've seen in a long time. We took a super inexpensive material, put it through the printer and just gave it to her. It was a Cancer bike and walk-a-thon. Worth to us was about $25. to her... piceless and she said she would give our name out to lotsa people. I told her not to let anyone know we donated it.

I don't care if a get one call or not, but back to your story.... this was used for three days, while yours is being used as a permanent outdoor sign. All the same stuff went into yours as mine. How can you say the sign is worth $250 or $275 when it's only worth about $25 ?? Sure, the value of it is more..... maybe $150 or $175, but it's not a permanent sign in the slightest.

I'm all for making what you can on each and every project, but misrepresenting your products is gonna come back to bite you in the arse.

I totally understand, This project wasn't priced by me to the end customer though. My partner doesn't do signs in house and outsources some to me such as this one. He did make a mistake of pricing it to the customer before asking me my pricing for wholesale but no biggie.

There is a contractor who had some cut vinyl coro signs done in 2008ish and even they look good still (see it everyday as he posted it in a yard in town)

Not saying corplast is the go to substrate for a outdoor sign but it does hold up when used in my experiences.

 

[Salmoneye]

I have seen some thick stuff last an awful long time. I don't recommend it as such but I have been amazed.