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60 Minutes on Steve Jobs... aaah that's better!

GypsyGraphics

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What do you mean... "so-called" stolen (or even borrowed) ideas? Which ones?

so we're going there are we...

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okay well... he didn't invent your index finger but your using it differently today because of Jobs!
 

rfulford

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The mouse and graphical user interface as most commonly noted as being stolen. I think stolen is a bit harsh however. Xerox invited Steve Jobs to look at the "Lisa" and showed him the GUI, the mouse, email and ethernet. All were revolutionary and xerox took none of them to market AFAIK.
 

oldgoatroper

Roper of Goats. Old ones.
okay well... he didn't invent your index finger but your using it differently today because of Jobs!

By saying "so-called" stolen ideas, you are implying that some ideas that Jobs/Apple had were original and that other people are calling them stolen. I was just wondering which ideas you think these were.

Also, are you implying that Jobs/Apple invented touch-screen technology? Or are you implying that Jobs/Apple originated the idea of using multi-touch to pinch/expand images or screens or any one of a number of wondrous things an iPhone or iPad does?

Just wondering, Gyps...
 

iSign

New Member
The larger question is why is autism so prevalent now?

because the gov'mnt pays for treatment....

UM.. NO, I THINK THERE WAS A MUCH MORE ACCURATE REPLY FURTHER UP...

Bull, too many professionals have it to their advantage to have your kids diagnosed with this.

Trust me Dave... you have no idea what you are talking about!

BINGO!

while I don't pretend to believe misdiagnosis is not a valid point, nor would I doubt a small minority of unscrupulous "professionals" would seek to pad their income with insurance payments for treatments that are not needed...

...I am not so much of a cynic to overlook the tremendous advances in medical science that have made many disorders far better understood, recognized & treated..

...but unfortunately, many forms of autism are far easier to diagnose than to effectively treat... and I know this from decades of near first hand experience...
 

Circleville Signs

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Just a clarification - Xerox did not invite Jobs to look at the "Lisa". The Lisa was an Apple product that Jobs named after the daughter that he abandoned. Xerox did, however, invent the GUI interface and the mouse.

I purchased the Jobs biography yesterday and am about 1/3rd through it. Fascinating stuff. Here's the semi-formed conclusion that I have come to...

The guy was an a$$hat. But he wasn't an uncalculated a$$hat.

He was a TERRIBLE manager of average people. But he was a BRILLIANT manager of brilliant people.

He literally was able to WILL reality to bend to his whim.

That's impressive.
 

CES020

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I haven't bought the book, but I did download a sample of it on my phone to see how it displayed (I haven't bought a book on my phone yet), and much to my surprise, the sample contains a lot of pages.

I've only skimmed through a little of it, but one thing I thought was quite interesting is how so much of what's used today appears to have come out of the west coast LSD type scene. Didn't they seem to speculate that much of the inventions coming out of the west coast at that time were because of the culture at Berkley and the surrounding area?

They even suggested that no other place in the world was creating things like they were, because they were tapping into things others would not with their drug use?

If that's accurate, that's a pretty profound statement in my opinion. To suggest LSD use is responsible for much of what we use today probably has more truth in it than anyone would want to admit.
 

Circleville Signs

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I would agree with that. That's the thing with psychedelic and psychotropic drugs. They aren't addictive, and if not abused, studies have shown that they open up entire areas of the brain that lay dormant in non-users - and those areas remain somewhat accessible even after the drug is out of the user's system.
 

iSign

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I would agree with that. That's the thing with psychedelic and psychotropic drugs. They aren't addictive, and if not abused, studies have shown that they open up entire areas of the brain that lay dormant in non-users - and those areas remain somewhat accessible even after the drug is out of the user's system.

I think I've heard that... or read it.... um, like my friend told me...
 

oldgoatroper

Roper of Goats. Old ones.
I would agree with that. That's the thing with psychedelic and psychotropic drugs. They aren't addictive, and if not abused, studies have shown that they open up entire areas of the brain that lay dormant in non-users - and those areas remain somewhat accessible even after the drug is out of the user's system.

I don't doubt that areas of the brain remain "somewhat" accessible -- I just doubt how useful that really might be. In fact, might be a hindrance to getting everyday things done. I once attended a lecture given by Timothy Leary on the emerging uses of computers. He mostly just rambled and babbled and, afterwards when meeting him, even though he looked me in the eye and shook my hand, I'm pretty sure he wasn't even in the room....
 

cwb143

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somebody on here really really likes Steve Jobs.
bet you wouldn't like him so much if you were working for him.
 

Mainframe

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somebody on here really really likes Steve Jobs.
bet you wouldn't like him so much if you were working for him.

If you worked for Jobs now you would have to also be deceased, I personally don't think I would like that at this time.
 

GypsyGraphics

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so we're going there are we...
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okay well... he didn't invent your index finger but your using it differently today because of Jobs!

HEY WHAT HAPPENED TO MY TOUGH GIRL PIC? I'M PUTTING HER BACK!
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By saying "so-called" stolen ideas, you are implying that some ideas that Jobs/Apple had were original and that other people are calling them stolen. I was just wondering which ideas you think these were.

Also, are you implying that Jobs/Apple invented touch-screen technology? Or are you implying that Jobs/Apple originated the idea of using multi-touch to pinch/expand images or screens or any one of a number of wondrous things an iPhone or iPad does?

Just wondering, Gyps...

what i'm saying is that he took ideas AND PEOPLE, made the most of them... he saw potential, he saw "GREAT" in a "good" idea and brought it to fruition and on a mass scale!!!

are you suggesting, that YOU owned a product with the touch capability anything close to what the iPhone offered, when it came out? if so, i'd sure like to see it.

somebody on here really really likes Steve Jobs.
bet you wouldn't like him so much if you were working for him.

Yes, somebody does... but maybe that somebody doesn't like him cuz she thinks he's a nice guy or that he would have been nice to work for. Maybe at twenty she was intrigued by a twenty five year old who was already doing amazing things. (she might have found his boyish good looks wildly sexy, but i'm just guessing)

But these days, i'd venture to guess, what she likes about him is, not only what he's accomplished, but that she's a recipient of his accomplishments...
grateful, respectful and FOREVER IMPRESSED.
 
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iSign

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that link required me to log in, or create an account... which I haven't done... but googled instead and found THIS link!

moving!!
 
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