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Alternate OS on a diagnostic machine

Shovelhead

New Member
Ubuntu, Linux........
Is any one better than the other to scan and diagnose a
dropped-in Windows HD?....or is it Ford or Chevy?

:thankyou:
 

SignBurst PCs

New Member
They are both Linux... Ubuntu is just a very popular version of Linux.

I personally don't use Linux to troubleshoot, I just boot to a "Bart PE" disk. You can use Google to find a the most recent versions. You just boot from a CD (containing a stripped down version of Windows), similar to booting to a linux CD.
 

Shovelhead

New Member
They are both Linux... Ubuntu is just a very popular version of Linux.

I personally don't use Linux to troubleshoot, I just boot to a "Bart PE" disk. You can use Google to find a the most recent versions. You just boot from a CD (containing a stripped down version of Windows), similar to booting to a linux CD.

I haven't tried Bart yet but am eager to.
Is there any instance where you would pull a HD or is Bart adequate?
For instance....I've recently encountered "Spyguard 2008" on someone's machine....it disabled the registry amongst, other things.
I enabled the registry through "run" but it was still there after registry deletions.
I researched the crap out of this thing and tried everything.........
Malwarebytes was recommended for an easy removal but I was not able
to install it or other software to kill it. If I dropped the HD in another machine could I just scan that slave and get rid of it or is it more difficult?

:thankyou:


(didn't see your last post)
 

SignBurst PCs

New Member
I haven't tried Bart yet but am eager to.
Is there any instance where you would pull a HD or is Bart adequate?
For instance....I've recently encountered "Spyguard 2008" on someone's machine....it shut down the registry amongst, other things.
I researched the crap out of this thing and tried everything.........
Malwarebytes was recommended for an easy removal but I was not able
to install it or other software to kill it. If I dropped the HD in another machine could I just scan that slave and get rid of it or is it more difficult?

:thankyou:

Every situation is different. Bart PE does boot from the existing hardware, so if the infected computer stinks, then Bart PE may not run well. So in that instance, if I really had to access the HD from outside the original Windows installation (which is not always the case), I may remove the drive and move it to a more capable computer (just to get the job done faster). I would do that with a USB / HD adapter.
 

jiarby

New Member
I also use a Barts PE (w/ Ghost) CD Boot disk... good for ghosting, remote registry editing, and local admin resets. I've always done virus stuff in safe mode.

Do a safe mode boot, Shovel, then run the malewarebytes.
 

Shovelhead

New Member
I also use a Barts PE (w/ Ghost) CD Boot disk... good for ghosting, remote registry editing, and local admin resets. I've always done virus stuff in safe mode.

Do a safe mode boot, Shovel, then run the malewarebytes.

Been there man.
It won't allow an install of anything that could possibly kill Spyguard.
This software is amazing and a pain in the keister.
Please forgive my ignorance. Does Bart build on generic Windows files
or only build of off the resident machine.
i.e....can I build a disk right now on my laptop and boot on Joe Blow's machine??


:signs101::thankyou:
 

Shovelhead

New Member
I'm such a wannabee techie.....I was never aware of a serial/USB
adapter....that blows me away.

:thankyou: all for your time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

jiarby

New Member
Barts PE loads a runtime version of windows onto a RAMdisk... from there you can launch your attack.
 

Techman

New Member
Personally I do not remove a hard drive. Almost no need to do so.

google ERD commander

You will find this is one of the best emergency recovery disks around. Download it when you find it. M$ bought it and now has it for free download. I use this one released before M$ bought it.
You set your machine to boot from CD. Boot up and you will be running a mini windows. From there you can do your deeds to get your machine running.

Bart PE is missing some parts such as a fully functional System Restore and a tools for checking system file integrity. I have it but would have to hunt it down its buried so deep in the unused pile.

Furthermore. These recent malwares are nasty. You must use a remover. All the 3rd party scanners and anti virii and spybots will not get it. System restore is a waste of time. These later model pukes unlock your restore file write itself there and then relock the restore file. You cannot get that crap out with a restore. They write themselves to other places as well. reboot merely brings it al back as before.
 

Shovelhead

New Member
Personally I do not remove a hard drive. Almost no need to do so.

google ERD commander

You will find this is one of the best emergency recovery disks around. Download it when you find it. M$ bought it and now has it for free download. I use this one released before M$ bought it.
You set your machine to boot from CD. Boot up and you will be running a mini windows. From there you can do your deeds to get your machine running.

Bart PE is missing some parts such as a fully functional System Restore and a tools for checking system file integrity. I have it but would have to hunt it down its buried so deep in the unused pile.

Furthermore. These recent malwares are nasty. You must use a remover. All the 3rd party scanners and anti virii and spybots will not get it. System restore is a waste of time. These later model pukes unlock your restore file write itself there and then relock the restore file. You cannot get that crap out with a restore. They write themselves to other places as well. reboot merely brings it al back as before.


Now on to research how to make a bootable USB also just for kicks.

:signs101::thankyou:
 
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