artofacks1
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Has technology on the inkjet world caught up ? Is there an alternative to the Edge FX to print white ink?
Thanks,
Robert
Thanks,
Robert
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Best printer that is not an edge for White on clear
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BigfishDM
Merchant Member
I have been working a lot with the new UCJV from Mimaki and the white ink seems to be pretty great from what I am seeing. They have a new 30" model out also.
Solventinkjet
DIY Printer Fixing Guide
UV based printers are the only way to go and the Mimaki UCJV is one that has come up a lot for roll to roll. We just purchased our demo machine and will get to play around with it in a couple weeks. If it works the way we have been told, it sounds like a great solution. Stay away from Solvent and Latex white. They just don't cut it when it comes to opacity.
artofacks1
New Member
Any chance you could post a pict of white printed on clear vinyl?
How much would you charge me to print something on clear and ship it to me? I would love to see it in person as well.
How much would you charge me to print something on clear and ship it to me? I would love to see it in person as well.
BigfishDM
Merchant Member
I am actually the dealer for these machines, I could get something printed for you to show you no problem. Send me a file and I will have some prints done for ya.
Solventinkjet
DIY Printer Fixing Guide
Is that white printed on reflective? Cool effect!
jfiscus
Rap Master
Yes, hard to see in the daylight, but REALLY gets your attention in the right light or at night.
Kinda like the "stealth" black reflective on black cop cars.
clarizeyale
New Member
Do you guys ever have ANY issues with scuffing? It seems that no matter what I did, I ALWAYS ended up with scuffs. I'd make sure to put the material on the take up nice and taught and always cleaned the damned thing before each use but no matter what, it would scuff. We did one job where there were no scuffs but after I sent another file to print, it scuffed immediately. This would also happen when messing with heat and what not...
Teach me your ways!!
We loved the idea of this printer and its capabilities but it just brought us (me) more frustration that really, it just sits in the corner not being used
jfiscus
Rap Master
I am assuming that by "scuffing" you mean head strikes. Head strikes are either caused by incorrect media profiles, humidity issues, or cheap/old media. Taping it to the take-up reel really doesn't help anything with this series of printer.
First, use a quality material. Cheap vinyl (especially the backer) is more prone to head strikes than premium material. It is also is more sensitive to environmental changes than premium materials since it is made of inferior materials.
Next, control your environment. I'm not sure what it is like there, but it always seems very humid here. We keep our printers and most of the large format medias in their own large room. We also have a large dehumidifier in that room. We have a couple easily readable temperature / humidity gauges on the walls to help us check that we are doing the best we can to control the environment. The less humidity - the better. We empty our dehumidifier 3X per day usually; I believe it holds 1.5 gallons.
Lastly, make sure you are using the correct settings. Load the material (correctly, using the right pinch rollers and be sure its pulled straight) and create a new media profile. Run the media feed calibration and make sure the material is feeding correctly. Set the temperature to as low as possible for all heaters besides the post-heater, you don't really need heat to cure these inks. If all is going well you can turn the heaters up a little bit as long as you still have no issues.
I've noticed that the white ink REALLY likes to stick to itself if you give it a chance, so after printing don't place 2 rolls too close together until you get them laminated. I've also not seen any fading from the white ink from this series of printer, but I definitely recommend you using a media profile that does NOT include the orange ink.
First, use a quality material. Cheap vinyl (especially the backer) is more prone to head strikes than premium material. It is also is more sensitive to environmental changes than premium materials since it is made of inferior materials.
Next, control your environment. I'm not sure what it is like there, but it always seems very humid here. We keep our printers and most of the large format medias in their own large room. We also have a large dehumidifier in that room. We have a couple easily readable temperature / humidity gauges on the walls to help us check that we are doing the best we can to control the environment. The less humidity - the better. We empty our dehumidifier 3X per day usually; I believe it holds 1.5 gallons.
Lastly, make sure you are using the correct settings. Load the material (correctly, using the right pinch rollers and be sure its pulled straight) and create a new media profile. Run the media feed calibration and make sure the material is feeding correctly. Set the temperature to as low as possible for all heaters besides the post-heater, you don't really need heat to cure these inks. If all is going well you can turn the heaters up a little bit as long as you still have no issues.
I've noticed that the white ink REALLY likes to stick to itself if you give it a chance, so after printing don't place 2 rolls too close together until you get them laminated. I've also not seen any fading from the white ink from this series of printer, but I definitely recommend you using a media profile that does NOT include the orange ink.
Do you guys ever have ANY issues with scuffing? It seems that no matter what I did, I ALWAYS ended up with scuffs. I'd make sure to put the material on the take up nice and taught and always cleaned the damned thing before each use but no matter what, it would scuff. We did one job where there were no scuffs but after I sent another file to print, it scuffed immediately. This would also happen when messing with heat and what not...
Teach me your ways!!
We loved the idea of this printer and its capabilities but it just brought us (me) more frustration that really, it just sits in the corner not being used
clarizeyale
New Member
Thanks! we don't use "cheap or old" material... Like we've used avery, oracal, and the likes and they're fairly new rolls. Hmmm it makes me wonder if it is humidity then cuz yes, it does get pretty humid here (someone believed it doesn't and tried to argue with me about it.. they were definitely wrong LOL). We don't have a dehumidifier so maybe i'll bring this up to the boss.
Everything else mentioned, I've done so to me it seems to be the humidity issue. Really appreciate your response. Thanks again!
RISEgraphics
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Do you guys ever have ANY issues with scuffing? It seems that no matter what I did, I ALWAYS ended up with scuffs. I'd make sure to put the material on the take up nice and taught and always cleaned the damned thing before each use but no matter what, it would scuff. We did one job where there were no scuffs but after I sent another file to print, it scuffed immediately. This would also happen when messing with heat and what not...
Teach me your ways!!
We loved the idea of this printer and its capabilities but it just brought us (me) more frustration that really, it just sits in the corner not being used
What printer are you using? Are your heads set to high or low while printing? Have you tried switching them to see if it helps when printing white? Are you using the edge clamps while printing?
clarizeyale
New Member
Epson s70675. I think we have switched from high and low. Yes, we do use the edge clamps.
See response up regarding humidity. This seems most likely as SF is pretty humid.
It's been a loonnnnggg time since I've fired it up but I will need to try again soon. Boss is looking to sell it.
artofacks1
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artofacks1
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