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Bulk Commercial Die Cut Stickers Machine

bigjim

New Member
For textile it's huge speed improvement and the finishing it nice. And that's what the Summa is made for.
I see that now. Duh.

My thought was to be able to use the speed of a laser cutter with existing wide format printers, thereby not having to switch to a digital label press for a million dollars or so.

Is this a thing? Seems to me you'd need either a wide laser cutter or a way to process your print jobs so you could cut down the vinyl to fit through one of the smaller label finishers after you printed it on the 54" or 60" printer.

Any options for this? Or am I thinking too hard?
 

FireSprint.com

Trade Only Screen & Digital Sign Printing
I think sei makes a flatbed laser cutter, but I think for high volume die cut stickers you probably want to go to a roll device. Some kind of narrow format laser cutter.


This is out of my current wheelhouse though. There are others that know a lot more I am sure. Check out our FireSprint YouTube channel for more info on how we do it.
 

bigjim

New Member
I think sei makes a flatbed laser cutter, but I think for high volume die cut stickers you probably want to go to a roll device. Some kind of narrow format laser cutter.


This is out of my current wheelhouse though. There are others that know a lot more I am sure. Check out our FireSprint YouTube channel for more info on how we do it.


I subscribe. You guys cut about a billion stickers on a bunch of $10,000 Graphtecs. Perhaps I should take that as a hint.

And since I have you here: In one (or more) of your videos you had said you had dedicated kiss cut and perf cut Graphtecs. Which brings me to wonder:

1. Does the workflow go smoothly moving it between cutters with the bar codes?
2. I assume you do it this way because of the blade position. I know it's possible to do both kinds of cut over the channel. Is this a bad idea?
3. Why not get into flatbeds with your volume? I know you have at least one Zund but I assume for boards. Not worth the money for stickers?
4. If you're sticking with roll cutters why not Summa that can do perf and contour all in one job?



Ok, I'm done for now. Probably not.
 

bigjim

New Member
I think sei makes a flatbed laser cutter, but I think for high volume die cut stickers you probably want to go to a roll device. Some kind of narrow format laser cutter.


This is out of my current wheelhouse though. There are others that know a lot more I am sure. Check out our FireSprint YouTube channel for more info on how we do it.


One more question: Will you guys print for a retail sticker shop? In other words they buy from you and sell direct in their own store? Or do you strictly work for people who middle job requests from consumers and have you print them?
 

FireSprint.com

Trade Only Screen & Digital Sign Printing
One more question: Will you guys print for a retail sticker shop? In other words they buy from you and sell direct in their own store? Or do you strictly work for people who middle job requests from consumers and have you print them

If you are set up to provide print ready artwork and, have a state resale certificate, and can prove your affiliation with the industry we’ll likely approve your account. If your a “Gift Shop”. I would say no, but if you’re a sticker and decal shop, we’d likely work with you.
 

FireSprint.com

Trade Only Screen & Digital Sign Printing
I subscribe. You guys cut about a billion stickers on a bunch of $10,000 Graphtecs. Perhaps I should take that as a hint.

And since I have you here: In one (or more) of your videos you had said you had dedicated kiss cut and perf cut Graphtecs. Which brings me to wonder:

1. Does the workflow go smoothly moving it between cutters with the bar codes?
2. I assume you do it this way because of the blade position. I know it's possible to do both kinds of cut over the channel. Is this a bad idea?
3. Why not get into flatbeds with your volume? I know you have at least one Zund but I assume for boards. Not worth the money for stickers?
4. If you're sticking with roll cutters why not Summa that can do perf and contour all in one job?



Ok, I'm done for now. Probably not.

We use the graphtecs for smaller stickers and kiss cutting. They do a great job, take up less space, and considerably cheaper than our zunds. The zunds are used for larger graphics, especially large thru cuts. For us it’s more about floor space than anything else.

I’m sure summas are awesome, but we like the thru cut on the graphtec. For us, we can load a full roll of kiss cut stickers and walk away. It will scan and move to the next batch automatically. That allows our operators to work directly on a thru cut graphtec or do thru cutting on the Zunds.
 

Pauly

Printrade.com.au
I subscribe. You guys cut about a billion stickers on a bunch of $10,000 Graphtecs. Perhaps I should take that as a hint.

And since I have you here: In one (or more) of your videos you had said you had dedicated kiss cut and perf cut Graphtecs. Which brings me to wonder:

1. Does the workflow go smoothly moving it between cutters with the bar codes?
2. I assume you do it this way because of the blade position. I know it's possible to do both kinds of cut over the channel. Is this a bad idea?
3. Why not get into flatbeds with your volume? I know you have at least one Zund but I assume for boards. Not worth the money for stickers?
4. If you're sticking with roll cutters why not Summa that can do perf and contour all in one job?



Ok, I'm done for now. Probably not.

Id like to openly assist on some of these questions from our POV.

1. You can connect many FC9000s to a single job folder. barcode server will work flawlessly over them all. We use the same concept with our summas.
3. Its cheaper to run a $10,000 vinyl cutter to thrucut small stickers vs a zund or a summa F series. There would be efficiently to gain using a flatbed cutter, but also space will be an issue. If we ramped up our die cutting products, we would go straight to a summa F series flatbed or a Zund S series.
4. We only run Summa vinyl cutters. We sold our Graphtec after buying multiple Summas. The Graphtec have a cutting channel and is far easier to thrucut stickers. With the Summa, you need to thrucut on the cutting strip which means replacing the $50 strip ever so often. You also wouldn't thrucut and kisscut on the same pass. you'd do kiss 1st, then the other.
You can also do this on the FC9000. if you leave the blade in the cutting channel, you can get it to thrucut and kiss cut without removing the vinyl.
Summas i think are a better machine, Only if you're kiss cutting.
 
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