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Can I run a 25 foot serial cable to my cutter?

binki

New Member
We re-orged out layout and I need 15' of serial cabel minimum to the cutter. We have a 6' that works great but if I go to a 25' will that be too much?

TIA
 

showcase 66

New Member
Every cutter I have had has always said not to use a longer cable than what came with the machine. That being said, I have a 12' one for one cutter and it has had no real problems. I was told by a tech a few years ago to not let your cables lay on the floor as a static charge can build up through the cable. The longer the cable, the more static it potentially will have.

Does the 25' cable have a integrated booster in it. I have had problems with long usb's with a booster in them. The cutter I tried to use with one could not bee seen on my computer. Just a thought.
 

binki

New Member
I ordered a 15' and it is long enough as the crow flies but as the worm crawls it may be just short. We have another computer and just need a monitor so I may just hook that one up but we really wanted to add another cutter so if the 15' doesn't work we will need to add another computer.
 

96XP

New Member
Do wireless USB transmitter/receiver work?

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No Win 7. arg..
 

Mainframe

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I ordered a 15' and it is long enough as the crow flies but as the worm crawls it may be just short. We have another computer and just need a monitor so I may just hook that one up but we really wanted to add another cutter so if the 15' doesn't work we will need to add another computer.

Just add a USB hub at the end of your 15 foot cable and run a cable from that to your cutter, maybe that will get you there.
 

briankb

Premium Subscriber
What machine are you trying to hookup via serial port? Both USB and Serial have a length limit do to the resistance in the wire itself that leads to loss of signal.

If there is an option to add a Network card to your equipment that is the best option and you can easily run it hundreds of feet from a switch/router/computer using Cat5 or Cat6 cable.
 

amw

Longtime Members
We use USB over about 40' using a powered hub. Haven't had an issue ever. Been doing it with 25 feet for years till we recently moved to a new place and had to add 15' to it.

Marsha
 

ddarlak

Go Bills!
If there is an option to add a Network card to your equipment that is the best option and you can easily run it hundreds of feet from a switch/router/computer using Cat5 or Cat6 cable.

+1

i use a $15 parallel port print server, here are two for $15
 
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choucove

New Member
If what you are needing to use is a standard DB9 Serial Null Modem cable, then you can go with lengths up to or greater than 25 feet. We currently have a CNC router connected to a computer using a serial null modem cable that is 25 ft. and have absolutely no issues. We also have run a Graphtec plotter once off a 25 ft. serial cable for years and had no issues there.
 

round man

New Member
years ago(1990)I needed a 20 ft cable to run my plotter,...I had to have one made up and all the techs told me it wouldn't work due to line noise problems (electromagnectic disturbances from light ballasts and other shop equipment),...well I ran that plotter off of that 20' serial cable for over ten years before the plotter finally died,...it might be worth a try but You never know maybe I was just lucky,....
 

Jim Doggett

New Member
We re-orged out layout and I need 15' of serial cabel minimum to the cutter. We have a 6' that works great but if I go to a 25' will that be too much?

TIA

Yes (too long), if your cutter has a smaller buffer. The penalty for a cable that's too long is data-loss; it'll cut normally and then go wacky, ruining the vinyl. If 6' works great, buy a small table and keep your cutting station close. Or go long and buy extra vinyl since some will get ruined, I'd bet.

JMO,
 
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Techman

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years ago(1990)I needed a 20 ft cable to run my plotter,...I had to have one made up and all the techs told me it

The real problem with long cables of any port type (usb, parallel, serial) is the timing with the signal pulses and cable shielding and the impedance and signal reflection and baud rates.. The signals go in two directions. One signal may be going while the machines sends another back to the computer. If signal one is late getting back the computer will flip out and cause a error.

In the old days cables were limited to about 18 ft. (6 meters) for standard usages. That was the rule of thumb to cover any problems with the old rs232 interface.. And the old lesser quality cables. Also, laying two next to each other sometimes caused a problem because the signals would leak between the two.

However, our cutters usually run at about 9600 baud (slow). And the cables today are shielded very well. Therefor some machines might run with a cable up to about (10 meters) 30 ft or more. This is dependent on the cable shielding the drains and quality etc. Your mileage may vary.

Parallel cables,,,
The old Centronics parallel cables, (1980's) can rarely be more than 15 feet long and still operate correctly, and 9 to 12 feet is a safer limit. Yes, I made a few of those back in the day when you had to make your own.
But the newer IEEE-1284 can go up to 30 feet in length. I know that for a fact because I run a printer in another room on a 30Ft cable.
 

binki

New Member
The 15' was just a little short but we plugged the 6' and the 15' together and it works fine.
 

ironchef

New Member
All this cable talk, a question came to mind. Whats the average life of a serial cable/usb cable/ parallel?
 
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