Can I use a plotter other than Gerber to cut my Edge prints?

[Tom]

I have a classic Edge and a HS15 plus plotter, but the plotter is acting up and I think it's done. I am running Omega software. I'm looking into a new Graphtec plotter, but can't find anyone that is cutting their Edge prints with anything but a Gerber plotter. I really don't want to buy a new or used Gerber plotter. Their customer service is awful. Is anyone out there cutting Edge prints with another brand Plotter?

 

[GB2]

If you are only printing with the Edge and plotting Edge prints or 15" rolls of vinyl then there is no better plotter to use than a Gerber plotter. As you know it is a system designed to be used together and actually works exceptionally well. Also the Gerber plotters on their own are excellent plotters. Now, if you are doing other things or you plan on growing beyond Edge prints and 15" rolls of vinyl, then you can consider another plotting option and yes, it is possible to cut Edge prints on other plotters. You would just have to learn how to print whatever is needed for the other plotter as it wouldn't be using the Gerber marks but you would have to print registration marks that would work for the new plotter or whatever other software you would be using to cut with.

 

[danno]

We have used our Summa and our Zund to cut our edge prints. We do have to put the corresponding marks on the print for the plotters to read the cut.

 

[Joe House]

You've been able to cut Edge prints from Omega for some time now using a Graphtec plotter. I think a Gerber 15" plotter would be better, but it is more expensive. When Graphtec was making Gerber's friction fed plotters, Gerber started to incorporate the Graphtec cutting marks into their system.

 

[Jburns]

I have cut gerber prints with a graphtec using flexi. it was a PITA to get the graphtec calibrated so it cut the prints property, (see my other posts) but it can be done.
HOWEVER - you must note that the print width is reduced to about 9.5 inches, because the graphtec marks encroach on the print ( type 1 and 2).

Best to run the gerber plotter -maximum print width and zero alignment issues. Your HS15 is probably 15 plus years old - so you got a good run. (I will be selling my GS15 Plus in the near future, I have the envision).

 

[Alex P]

Your best bet is to use the Gerber plotter, they might be slow but work as they should and will give you very little problems. It might be cheaper to repair your gerber plotter as they are really basic mechanically.

 

[Jburns]

Are your Chrome rails clean and oiled?

 

[RG]

I have done this several times using a Graphtec FC7000 and FlexiSign. You can even get the full 11.8" if you choose to use the 4 point registration marks and laser instead of the auto registration mark reading function of the Graphtec. I don't think that Omega has drivers for a Graphtec. An older version of Flexi might be less expensive than another plotter.

 

[xkellyx]

A lot of our Gerber prints are one color on clear (gold, white, etc). I print on the Edge, with Graphtec marks. I have sheets of pre-printed black on clear graphtech marks that I carefully place over the white/gold marks then I cut. Works great. I am not a fan of my GSX plus and really prefer the Graphtec. We have been using flexi cloud.

 

[artofacks1]

I have done this several times using a Graphtec FC7000 and FlexiSign. You can even get the full 11.8" if you choose to use the 4 point registration marks and laser instead of the auto registration mark reading function of the Graphtec. I don't think that Omega has drivers for a Graphtec. An older version of Flexi might be less expensive than another plotter.

Can you please elaborate on how to do this?

 

[Bill Modzel]

You might check out The Plotter Doctor. He repairs them and I think that he also sells used ones.

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[Chimuka]

If one were to print (4) .119 inch squares spaced from the 4 corners of your print. This in my case is accomplished in Flexi Sign with step and repeat . Then create a contour cut file including the 4 corner squares.
In my case I use a Summa Cutter with the opos eye system. Then I use a cutting program called Summa Winplot, which is free from the Airmark site. It can automatically find the corner squares as it's registration marks.

 

[RG]

Can you please elaborate on how to do this?

It's fairly simple. Your plotter has to have contour cutting capability. Send the file to Production Manager. For your cutter choose Graphtec. For the type of registration marks choose 4-point (bomb sight). Print the file. The bomb sights will be at the 4 corners of your print. Put the print in the plotter and hit send. You will be prompted to put the laser pointer in the center of the 1st registration mark and I think then you press the enter button on your monitor screen. You are prompted to move to mark #2, #3, and #4 doing the same thing. When you are finished, the plotter will do the contour cut. Accuracy depends on how well you line up the laser with the center of the bomb sight. Good luck.

 

[michael Mahoney]

If you are only printing with the Edge and plotting Edge prints or 15" rolls of vinyl then there is no better plotter to use than a Gerber plotter. As you know it is a system designed to be used together and actually works exceptionally well. Also the Gerber plotters on their own are excellent plotters. Now, if you are doing other things or you plan on growing beyond Edge prints and 15" rolls of vinyl, then you can consider another plotting option and yes, it is possible to cut Edge prints on other plotters. You would just have to learn how to print whatever is needed for the other plotter as it wouldn't be using the Gerber marks but you would have to print registration marks that would work for the new plotter or whatever other software you would be using to cut with.

the question is can he use another cutter not what you think is best

 

[michael Mahoney]

I have done this several times using a Graphtec FC7000 and FlexiSign. You can even get the full 11.8" if you choose to use the 4 point registration marks and laser instead of the auto registration mark reading function of the Graphtec. I don't think that Omega has drivers for a Graphtec. An older version of Flexi might be less expensive than another plotter.

I have a classic Edge and a HS15 plus plotter, but the plotter is acting up and I think it's done. I am running Omega software. I'm looking into a new Graphtec plotter, but can't find anyone that is cutting their Edge prints with anything but a Gerber plotter. I really don't want to buy a new or used Gerber plotter. Their customer service is awful. Is anyone out there cutting Edge prints with another brand Plotter?

go here hope you can make sense of what to do but im using a ce7000-40 using this method >>> https://www.gerbertechnology.com/downloads/pdf/fastfacts/3560.pdf

 

[michael Mahoney]

the question is can he use another cutter not what you think is best

maybe you need to read the question a few times

 

[lainke]

I use mu Gerber P2C 1200 (summa D120 with Gerber body) to cut my Gerber edge FX prints through Omega 7 so it can be done .

 

[White Haus]

maybe you need to read the question a few times

Thanks for coming out.

Feel better after resurrecting an old thread only to yell at yourself?

 

[White Haus]

I use mu Gerber P2C 1200 (summa D120 with Gerber body) to cut my Gerber edge FX prints through Omega 7 so it can be done .

What kind of marks/workflow are you using for this?

We've recently started experimenting with cutting Edge prints on our Summa S140T plotter. The cut quality is great but running into some weird issues when printing w/ the small square OPOS marks.

It will print intermittent marks first, then feed back and print the job, but it's printing marks WITHIN the job. So when it goes back and prints the actual job, the marks are being covered by the print data which just seems like a weird glitch.

It also seems to get very confused w/ repeats and how much height you have to work with.
For example, it will think you can go up to 24 copies up, but anything above 20 won't work. It will even print partial copies or sometimes not print a copy but then cut in that location.

I've been using the Gerber Edge ---> Gerber Plotter workflow for 20+ years and I've never seen anything like this, it's like it intentionally tries to mess jobs up.

We've got 3 HS/GS plotters in various states and unfortunately none of them are very reliable right now, guess I'll have to get to tinkering and see if we can get one working again.