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Cheesy Franchise?

Discussion in 'General Chit-Chat' started by James Burke, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. James Burke

    James Burke Being a grandpa is more fun than working

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    I drove by one of these today http://www.signsbytomorrow.com
    and since I am becoming educated by the "purists" here, a red flag went up in my mind.

    I stopped in and acted like a "customer" just so I could get a peek at what they had in the back room. Their window between the work area and the sales counter was large enough you could drive a Mini through it. From the looks of things, they aren't using anything spectacular. It appears to be just a print and cut shop only, and while they had samples of just about everything under the sun (check their link), I would guess that is subbed to somebody regional. He estimated that printed banners at approx. $10 sq. ft.

    BTW...I'm in the stone engraving & small monument industry (slants, bevels & lawn markers), and I don't even mess with the requests I've had to do vinyl. Artistically, this forum is a fantastic inspiration for me and the business topics are spot on.
     
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  2. letterman7

    letterman7 Very Active Member

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    SBT are well known here. Typical francise stuff, vinyl and print in house while everything else is subbed. Quality varies by owner, just like a Sign-a-Rama and FastSigns.
     
  3. kstompaint

    kstompaint Active Member

    That sounds pretty typical of any small shop, franchise or not. Printer, plotter, a few PC's, some hand tools and sub the rest out. It's not far off the description of my shop less the paint.

    ... and $10 sq ft for printed banner is pretty standard too.
     
  4. speedmedia

    speedmedia Very Active Member

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    I would give my righty to get $10 Psf for a banner. That would be awesome.

    We had one of those by us and it went outta biz about a year ago.

    Kurt
     
  5. anotherdog

    anotherdog Very Active Member

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    Hey they NEED $10 per square, they have FEES to pay.
    % off the top and a licence fee, arm and a leg plus your first born.
     
  6. kstompaint

    kstompaint Active Member

    We get $10 but you're talking design included and (very) short runs and four finished edges with grommets. It's not worth doing for much less.
     
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    bayshorecreations Very Active Member

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  8. Pat Whatley

    Pat Whatley Major Contributor

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    What's always troubled me about Signs By Tomorrow is that they've got 180 franchise locations....all using that God-awful logo that was designed by a photocopy shop in the 80s.
     
  9. Keith Rae

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    Now they have an kool website
     
  10. James Burke

    James Burke Being a grandpa is more fun than working

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    Wow...that is a cool franchise. But don't you think everybody looks a little too intense for this setting? After all, it's fondue...sloooow and eeeasy. They look like they've just gone a few rounds with a lobster tail. Something also tells me they're dipping into more than cheese and chocolate.

    Check out that Yin Yang cocktail next to the gal in the fron left of the photo.

    Yowzers! Hover your mouse over the levitating fondue pots and see what happens. Absolutely way too cool!!!!
     
  11. Rick

    Rick Certified Enneadecagon Designer

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    At 875,000 - 1.5 million in start-up cost for a Melting Pot, I'm thinking a Signs by Tommorrow is a cheaper alternative...

    Oh, there is a melting pot close to me... may have to check it out...
     
  12. Farmboy

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    There are none in my state. Time to get outta the sign biz and open a restaurant, I mean how hard can it be when the people cook their own food. Sounds like easy money!!!
     
  13. Mike Paul

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    Never heard of the melting pot but a lot of good looking women hang there... :thumb:
     

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