Sam Nitzberg
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Yeah, I know all that. But it's tempting just the same.
Yeah, I know all that. But it's tempting just the same.
I was always told that once a sign is installed, I'd have no right to go take it down from non payment. Maybe it differs from state to state, but I would go there at night and drape a banner over the sign and in big bold letters saying "covered due to non payment from cool signs" something along them lines.
I guarantee you will be paid almost instantly .
Depending on the state, it is considered apart of the physical property. TN and AL consider it apart of the property.
Ironically, that's why in some jurisdictions you have to go after the landowner, who may or may not have been the actual person that commissioned the work for payment. They in turn would have to go after their tenant for reimbursement.
How? There was no agreement between you and the building or landowner. The have no liabilities as to what their leasee does.
Yeah, I know, but it ain't worth it.
Many years ago, I watched the Police going the other way as I left a guy who called them on me. They didn't see who I was and once I was gone, they couldn't prove I had been there. Needless to say, I got paid, by the help of the very Police who were gonna arrest me for taking, what I thought back then, to be mine. They advised him to pay me or set up some kinda payment terms, as they said, I'll probably come back at night and do it again. Without cameras and stuff, they wouldn't be able to prosecute me if I burned the signs.
Ya know, Moze might be onto something. We could really make s101 work for us, if we all banded together on this.
Let's start a signs101 version of a collections agency. You don't even have to be near the guy to participate. He isn't answering the phone for the OP, but he has to answer his phone to get business. He probably recognizes the phone number from the OP, but if he gets a flood of calls from signs101 members asking the same specific questions that would be legal and legit, the sheer magnitude of the calls could persuade the bum(s) to pay up.
for this "service", if and when the bum pays up, the recipient would donate 1% of the collections to a signs101 fund. this fund could be set up to do any type of charity the membership votes on. the monies would be dispersed once a year to voted on charities.
You'll be playing with fire if you do this. I know many here won't agree, but you will be. Bassett had nothing to do with this in any way whatsoever. That aside, once you instal those letters, they are now attached to the wall and you'll be tampering with private property, now. You put them up and unless you can prove you have in writing an order to remove them...... that's no longer a legal issue of getting paid, but vandalism, along with some very other harsh criminal charges. It's not their fault, you didn't get paid. If you even insinuate to the sub you are gonna do this, they'll just laugh at you for taking the law into your own hands. Now, you might end up owing far more than what you're owed.
It always sure looks impressive, and I even do it myself, but any contract clauses or disclaimers that contradict any state, county, city laws aren't worth the paper they are printed on.. save your breath.