SummitSignsandmore
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How many people prep with 409 before they install vinyl??
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Curious??? 409 for prep
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CS-SignSupply-TT
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I think not because of the bleach. The best substance I have found and leaves no residue is BESTINE. Check out your local non-BIG BOX hardware store.
SummitSignsandmore
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Thank you guy. I actually made this post as a "point maker" for an online customer of mine.. I know how to install vinyl.. however I had a customer who instist that her experience with dept store vinyl and 409 as a prep is more overpowering than the DETAILED application instructions that I send with each of my products. In which I recommend an alcohol blend as a prep (VERY DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS)
She had Oracal 651 fall off her wall that she prepped with 409 after one hour as she stated to me.....
I wonder why???
She had Oracal 651 fall off her wall that she prepped with 409 after one hour as she stated to me.....
I wonder why???
CS-SignSupply-TT
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And yet we are told repeatedly, "...the customer is ALWAYS right..."
SummitSignsandmore
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Yeah.. However I tend to disagree with that statement when I KNOW I'm right.
Thanks everyone:U Rock:
However as she still states "It was the product" ????
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CheapVehicleWrap
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Tell her 409 is aiaght, but the 410 is tons better.
A little hard to find but worth looking for.
A little hard to find but worth looking for.
SummitSignsandmore
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haha 10-4
Also to the guy (SD&F) who suggested Windex.... Your not going to want to use Windex for any vinyl application. Windex has ammonia and ammonia will break down the vinyls adhesive.
Also to the guy (SD&F) who suggested Windex.... Your not going to want to use Windex for any vinyl application. Windex has ammonia and ammonia will break down the vinyls adhesive.
OldPaint
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sorry guy........for window installation of vinyl, WINDEX NO DRIP formula works very well for a wet application......NOT FOR CLEANING!!!!! everything i apply vinyl to i will clean with "appropriate" CLEANING SOLUTION!!! one product is not it. 409, PURPLE POWER(my favorite)FANTSTIC, you pick one. after an INTENSE CLEANING with any of these products.......ALCOHOL with at least 91% alcohol!!! this will clean any residue left by the heavey duty cleaners. been doin this for 20 years.....AND NEVER HAD A FAILED INSTALL)))
signage
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Techman
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most home cleaners including Windex no drip are fueled by
2-Butoxyethanol.
is a mild surfactant and solvent is the main ingredient of many home, commercial and industrial cleaning solutions.
It is in latex paint, leather cleaners etc..
here is a list of stuff that uses this juice.
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/prodtree?prodcat=Inside+the+Home&purpose=Cleaner&type=glass
2-Butoxyethanol.
is a mild surfactant and solvent is the main ingredient of many home, commercial and industrial cleaning solutions.
It is in latex paint, leather cleaners etc..
here is a list of stuff that uses this juice.
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/prodtree?prodcat=Inside+the+Home&purpose=Cleaner&type=glass