Need Help Dry Erease laminate wrinkles over time

[Andrea_neon]

Help! We make a lot of personalized whiteboards by printing the graphics in HP latex 335 and then laminating with Dry Erease laminate 111 from General Formulations. The problem is that 1 out of 3 whiteboards get wrinkles over time, we often use steel or pvc as the rigid material underneath. Mostly the whiteboards are in offices or production sites so they get no direct sunlight.

Someone knows if we are doing something wrong? is it the laminate? Here's a photo

 

[RaymondLoewy]

If you are using Gator board and non-plastic board, you may be experiencing air being blocked by the polyester dry erase OL not being able to "breath"

 

[CanuckSigns]

I had this happen when prints are rolled up after laminating, I had about 50 feet of prints to laminate with dry erase, when I took them off the take up roll on our laminator they were all garbage. My supplier got a very angry phone call from me that day!

I switched to a dry erase laminate from drytac and it fixed the issue. I believe the film we had issues with was a general formulations film as well.

 

[Andrea_neon]

I had this happen when prints are rolled up after laminating, I had about 50 feet of prints to laminate with dry erase, when I took them off the take up roll on our laminator they were all garbage. My supplier got a very angry phone call from me that day!

I switched to a dry erase laminate from drytac and it fixed the issue. I believe the film we had issues with was a general formulations film as well.

Thanks! I'll try with the Drytac, I'm tired and frustrated of throwing all the work away because of wrinkles :S

 

[Andrea_neon]

If you are using Gator board and non-plastic board, you may be experiencing air being blocked by the polyester dry erase OL not being able to "breath"

I'm using plastic boards and sometimes steel sheet, that's why I don't understand whats going on. Everything seems fine when we deliver and a few weeks later we get the call....

 

[Zendavor Signs]

Help! We make a lot of personalized whiteboards by printing the graphics in HP latex 335 and then laminating with Dry Erease laminate 111 from General Formulations. The problem is that 1 out of 3 whiteboards get wrinkles over time, we often use steel or pvc as the rigid material underneath. Mostly the whiteboards are in offices or production sites so they get no direct sunlight.

Someone knows if we are doing something wrong? is it the laminate? Here's a photo View attachment 150654

I'm not familiar with the 111 laminate, but we had that problem a number of years ago using the real thin cheap looking dry erase laminates. Since switching to Avery anti graffiti, we have never had a problem. It is quite a bit more expensive though.

 

[Owen Signcraft]

I know this is an old thread but just wanted to bring it back as we are having the very same issue with GF 111 dry erase laminate over 3M40c vinyl mounted to 3mm ACM. All looks good on installation but weeks later tunnels appear in the laminate. We switched to Drytac and now are experiencing tunneling issues while still on the take-up roll left over a weekend. Does any one have any good recommendations for material AND correct process to avoid this?

 

[FASTSIGNS]

We reverse print on acrylic. Then the acrylic surface acts like the dry erase surface.

 

[signheremd]

I know this is an old thread but just wanted to bring it back as we are having the very same issue with GF 111 dry erase laminate over 3M40c vinyl mounted to 3mm ACM. All looks good on installation but weeks later tunnels appear in the laminate. We switched to Drytac and now are experiencing tunneling issues while still on the take-up roll left over a weekend. Does any one have any good recommendations for material AND correct process to avoid this?

We use the GF110 Dry Erase Laminate and have never had a problem. We use it over OraCal 3551 Rapid Air (polymeric intermediate) and Avery 1105MPI (cast vinyl), as well as directly on to printed substrates. I think you are having an incapability issue. Try a different base vinyl, maybe a cast. Also, be sure your guys (if you have guys) are rolling these up with dry erase on the outside of the roll and not too tight before application. Those are two things that can lead to partial and spot delamination.

 

[Owen Signcraft]

We use the GF110 Dry Erase Laminate and have never had a problem. We use it over OraCal 3551 Rapid Air (polymeric intermediate) and Avery 1105MPI (cast vinyl), as well as directly on to printed substrates. I think you are having an incapability issue. Try a different base vinyl, maybe a cast. Also, be sure your guys (if you have guys) are rolling these up with dry erase on the outside of the roll and not too tight before application. Those are two things that can lead to partial and spot delamination.

Thanks, Signheremd. We wondered if the calendered vinyl was part of the problem. It was rolled inward as well, so this may have been the main issue. Hoping so as we reorder material for round 2.

 

[Owen Signcraft]

We use the GF110 Dry Erase Laminate and have never had a problem. We use it over OraCal 3551 Rapid Air (polymeric intermediate) and Avery 1105MPI (cast vinyl), as well as directly on to printed substrates. I think you are having an incapability issue. Try a different base vinyl, maybe a cast. Also, be sure your guys (if you have guys) are rolling these up with dry erase on the outside of the roll and not too tight before application. Those are two things that can lead to partial and spot delamination.

Thanks, Signheremd. We wondered if the calendered vinyl was part of the problem. It was rolled inward as well, so this may have been the main issue. Hoping so as we reorder material for round 2.