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Eco-Sol Max?

GZ SIGN DESIGNS

GZ SIGN DESIGNS

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We"ve used only ECO-SOL MAX inks for the past 4.5yrs no problems.no head replacements or clogs.our motto for printers "prevention is the best medicine".
 
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rgaskins

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I get my Roland Carts. (220) for $59.00 form Signsupplyusa and no shipping charges..I don't know if thats my cost or if they sell it to everybody for that price...
 
AllSquare Jason

AllSquare Jason

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There was a 5% increase on all Roland ink Jan 1st - that is why pricing is up and down right now. Wait until dealers have sold exisiting stock purchased at lower pricing....and you should see the 'OEM ink price war between dealers' even out, or at least we hope so.

We just got in 10 fresh cases 220ml and 440ml...but I don't publish my price online for fear of other dealers just copying or beating me by a buck - and YES, customers will switch suppliers for $1.

I've seen some crazy prices posted, PM me for price....always in stock, always fresh - ships from Greenville, SC. Local pick-up always welcome.
 
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tracey.peterson

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ABPGraphics said:
... The new vendor supplies Mega Ink, Bordeaux, LIquecolor and they all say they can be mixed and matched with OEM Inks. What are your guys's thoughts?
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I would be VERY careful with anybody saying 3rd party inks can be mixed and matched (presumably without creating new profiles).

I used bulk inks in my Pro 3, and we got things going well enough a couple weeks after the swap. I can tell you, though, running a 3rd party system wasn't as smooth as running the OEM inks. That's not to say you shouldn't do it, or that it won't be worth it, or that it's going to be a nightmare; that said, it won't be as easy.

My biggest issues were keeping the gravity fed reservoirs feeding ink to the heads consistently. For a while, until I'd nailed this down, I was using a LOT more ink than originally either through cleanings to head starvation or wrecked prints from nozzle droplets. Unfortunately, I had to do this testing myself, using our purchased ink, rather than having our sales guy support us as much as I'd have liked.

Sure, after we got it figured out we broke even, and over time, even got ahead, but it was a hassle for a while. We had color shifts (I remember raising an eyebrow to the salesman when he said I wouldn't ;), but I've made my own profiles for years, and color matched all sorts of devices to each other, so that was minor for me.

As a self-styled color guy, though, I'd give you a few recommendations.
-Re-profile any materials where color response is vital after the swap.
-Think about your current existing customers that re-order color specific items (logos, etc) and print fresh samples using your current setup, and again after the swap, to compare a before and after.
-Make SURE the company helping you with the transition is on top of things, informed, and could read something like my comments above without getting all uppity - or better yet, have suggestions to deal with them.
-Whoever your new supplier is, make sure they're awesome - both in support and responsiveness.

In my experience, this is how bulk ink swaps go, and while it was totally worth it, it's not always the breeze they make it sound. 3rd party ink (especially bulk systems) are an AWESOME way to save money, but to get to that point, you have to do it right, and you should be prepared for a short term loss (time, ink, downtime, and/or color response).
 
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JETBEST USA

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Hey ABP Graphics
Well if your using OEM ink with our ink this should just be direct plug in, and you would save yourself the hassle of doing a flush. Here at Jetbest we offer one of the highest quality inks out there today and at a great price. We are so confident that you will be completely satisfied with our product that we offer you 2 trial cartridges.
 
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