Upgraded to 8.5, exported my old (custom) profiles (prior to upgrading) and used the legacy conversion tool after I performed the upgrade and bang! Now on all my profiles, it prints a very light beige where it should be white. I use adobe RGB 1998 as my RGB input profile, pass it a 255,255,255 white square and it prints a very light beige. I temporarlly resolved the problem by color mapping it, but WTF?!? Not a problem in 8.1! Also, at least in my install, you still need the hardware key. Also, there was no documentation on the new dynamic PPD feature and the person I spoke to on the phone prior to performing the upgrade didn't know what the feature was, didn't know where to find documentation on it and was unwilling to forward me to someone who was more knowledgeable. Fortunately setting it up is self explanatory once the software is installed. Still, super lame. I think I'm going to cut a check and buy Wasatch tomorrow.