Help pricing sign..

[icex]

2x3 metal sign, front and back. We went to pick up a old sign and we have to remove the vinyl off both sides (all die cut, all 2' x 3'). We then have to clean the sign and repaint it.

I know roughly what to charge for making the sign, but not sure on the labor of removal/painting/etc.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

 

[2B]

whatever you shop rate is, there is no way to know how long it will take for removal.
The only way to price this is by the hour

 

[Craig Sjoquist]

For that size, unless it is something special about that you must use it, ... start with a new .. why bother removing old vinyl remove vinyl when nothing to do save for a cheapo sign or ya own... Removal can be easy or a real bear even with the right equipment.

When bidding I include material to avoid just this sorta thing or they bring in plywood & to make sure of extra profit.

 

[visual800]

This sign must be a special shape. Post pics would help us better

 

[Gino]

For that size, unless it is something special about that you must use it, ... start with a new .. why bother removing old vinyl remove vinyl when nothing to do save for a cheapo sign or ya own... Removal can be easy or a real bear even with the right equipment.

When bidding I include material to avoid just this sorta thing or they bring in plywood & to make sure of extra profit.

This 1,000%

 

[Billct2]

Do what I see all the new cheaps**t sign shops around here doing, slap a digital print right over the face without removing anything

 

[OldPaint]

i know you want the job.....as STATED... so here your way of handling it.
1. REMOVAL OF OLD VINYL.......charge as much as you would to APPLY IT!!!!!!
2. SANDING PRIMING, PAINTING both sides........ see what the local body shop would charge to sand,prime paint a SET OF TRUCK DOOR!!!!!! any body shop is gona get $150-200!!!!!
3. RECUT AND APPLY NEW VINYL........like i said in an earlier post...ANYTHING LESS THE $5 SQ FT IS STUPID!!!!
not worth doing. $5 SQ FT............2 X 3=6 X 2 =12 SQFT. $5 A SQ FT....JUST FOR THE VINYL INSTALL....=$60.....+ THE REMOVAL PRICE............$120.00 now whata gona charge for the REPAINT????

4. so now your gona do it for less ANYWAY.....

 

[Z SIGNS]

I dunno.

I'm doing a 2x3 right now for $3,500 but it's probably a different kind of sign.

If it is a restoration I would want more because it is a specialty.
If you want to specialize in old sticker restorations (OSR) then charge the
standard osr rate.

I would suggest staying away from this kind of customer and this kind of thinking.

I just looked online.You can get a 2x3 delivered for $67.50

I'm curious what do others charge for OSR ?

 

[icex]

It's just a metal sign. Die cut vinyl lettering on it that has to be removed.

I dunno.

I'm doing a 2x3 right now for $3,500 but it's probably a different kind of sign.

If it is a restoration I would want more because it is a specialty.
If you want to specialize in old sticker restorations (OSR) then charge the
standard osr rate.

I would suggest staying away from this kind of customer and this kind of thinking.

I just looked online.You can get a 2x3 delivered for $67.50

I'm curious what do others charge for OSR ?

 

[ExecuPrintGS]

If its not a special shape or odd ball size we wouldnt re-use the board. Cost of a new board vs. labor costs to remove old vinyl it doesnt make sense. We sway our customers towards just getting a new board.

Otherwise its a per hour cost @ shop rate and i tell them i will charge them for the time it takes, no more, no less.

 

[J Hill Designs]

yeah, unless its something crazy expensive like porcelain coated steel, cost of new is FAR less than cost to remove

 

[Techman]

How many times has anyone said. Here is the price. When they say "can we use the old board"? we say,, That is the old board price. Then make it on a new one anyway????

 

[Billct2]

Usually say add on 50% to use the old board

 

[SignManiac]

It's really not that difficult. Just come right out and say, I'll use your old stuff if you insist, but it's cheaper to start with new material. I sometimes add to clarify, the material is not the major factor in the cost of your sign, it's labor. Stripping off the old stuff cost more. Then they go, ah I see what you mean, and then they just say go ahead and use new stuff if it's cheaper that way.

Just be up front and tell them that's the way it works.

 

[threeputt]

It's really not that difficult. Just come right out and say, I'll use your old stuff if you insist, but it's cheaper to start with new material. I sometimes add to clarify, the material is not the major factor in the cost of your sign, it's labor. Stripping off the old stuff cost more. Then they go, ah I see what you mean, and then they just say go ahead and use new stuff if it's cheaper that way.

Just be up front and tell them that's the way it works.

Yep! +1

 

[icex]

Measured the sign and thought it was a 2x3, turned out to be a 3x4. Stripped all the old vinyl off which took about a hour on both sides, cleaned with goo gone and redid it. Looked good.

I was going to just get a new sheet from lowes but they don't carry 3x4 and my supplier only delivers biweekly.

 

[Gino]

The main thing is, you have a happy customer. Hope you got paid enough to be a happy vendor.

 

[OldPaint]

ok now your price SHOULD BE MORE!!!
3 X 4 = 12 SQFT X 2 =24 SQ FT cost for new vinyl should be $5 sq ft so now you at $120.00.
YOU SAY it took .` HOUR PER SIDE to remove and clean up. now YOU GIVEN THAT AWAY....right???
so ill bet you did the sign for the original 2 x 3 price...HE WANTED IT DONE FOR......and you just worked FOR FREE.....did you get enough to buy a milkshake at ELBY'S big boy?????

 

[phototec]

Measured the sign and thought it was a 2x3, turned out to be a 3x4. Stripped all the old vinyl off which took about a hour on both sides, cleaned with goo gone and redid it. Looked good.

I was going to just get a new sheet from lowes but they don't carry 3x4 and my supplier only delivers biweekly.

OK, you started this out asking for HELP PRICING SIGN, so now that it's done HELP us and tell us what you CHARGED the customer?

Oh, and I'm glad to hear you did the job YOUR way, sometimes it's best just to roll up your sleeves and get the job done yourself!

 

[SammyG]

2x3 metal sign, front and back. We went to pick up a old sign and we have to remove the vinyl off both sides (all die cut, all 2' x 3'). We then have to clean the sign and repaint it.

I know roughly what to charge for making the sign, but not sure on the labor of removal/painting/etc.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

We would charge $70/hr for labor. If my company were to complete this job and install we would be around $350.00.

Hope this helps.