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How long does eco-solv ink last outside unlaminated

I know its been asked a million times probably, but how long does it last on glossy vinyl and/or banner material.

I haven't seen any come back...
:thankyou:
 

CanuckSigns

Active Member
we had a banner on our old shop directing customer to our new place, it was up for 4 years before the new tenants moved in and took it down, it was a bit faded, but still perfectly legible.
 

gabagoo

New Member
On vinyl in full sun I got over 3 years. There was fade mind you but it was only noticeable if you compared it to a fresh print. Every colour is going to fade differently.

I try to upsell customers to laminate them and warn them, but many just don't want to spend the money and accept that the decal may not last a slong as they intend.
 

JoshLoring

New Member
I haven't seen any fade and some have been out about 5-6 years.
It's an award winning ink!

Side note: I've had vehicle wraps come in for damage repair (accidents etc) and printed replacement pieces with zero color change after 3 years. Matched up perfect with the exact same colors.
 

petepaz

New Member
i have an american flag decal on the back window of my car since 09. it's a little faded but still looks ok. car is always out side and goes through the car wash every 5-6 weeks.
i think under normal wear and tear the inks are ok, it's just when they are hit with chemicals is where you will have problems
 

CS-SignSupply

New Member
Hey Dave... you get sunlight in the hills of London, KY ??? :)

Most of the time, extended exposure to Sun/UV Light will fade the color while everyday abrasion will also scratch the material (unless laminated) and cause a loss of color.

Manufacturers say "Up to 3 Years" while I have seen some prints last 4-5 years with a little color change. On the other hand, chemicals and debris can kill an unlaminated image within days.

Had a client in TN that put unlaminated graphics on a small tour bus and parked it in his lot next to the building. Complained about fading within a week. Failed to let me know that there was a Dry Cleaner business at the end of the building. Asked for pictures and noticed a vent from the side of the brick wall building literally spaying the cleaning chemicals residue all over the side of the bus.
 

Circleville Signs

New Member
1. Banners don't get laminated. You can spray them if you want, but it's unnecessary.

2. Yard signs aren't considered permenant signage. If you client expects to get more than 3-6 months of use out of them, then you need to educate your client better.
 

Gino

Premium Subscriber
Yeah, Circle has it right. In both cases you're talking about temporary signs. Nothing extra really needed, unless the customer requests it.... then you charge extra for it.


There are some here with the policy of laminating everything out the door. Totally unnecessary or not standard procedure for certain items.
 

CS-SignSupply

New Member
The client I spoke of purchased a converted Roland with Lyson ink. This was well over 10 years ago. They opted out on the Laminator (back then) based on the ink life being stated as "up to 3 years unlaminated". Narrow minded but at the time, they were just getting into the digital print business. Lesson learned.
 
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