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Ink configuration?

Discussion in 'Roland' started by 2B, May 16, 2011.

  1. 2B

    2B Very Active Member

    May 5, 2011
    Before the new printer VS-640 is installed wanting to see which ink configurations are being and for what reason.
    Here is what the research has shown,

    Dual CMYK - 90-95% of printers use this ink configuration, fastest and cheapest to use

    CMYKLmLc - used for more "natural" skin tones, HD posters/enlarged photos

    CMYKMtWhite - the latest technology, not all people offer these, white is needed for clear vinyl/stickers or anywhere that needs a base coat. Metallic,
    1. It is NOT reflective
    2. It is a “spot” ink
    3. Requires lamination
    4. COST 5. SLOW!!!
    Of the people who have either the LmLc and/or WhiteMt
    Have you seen your customers willing to pay the extra amount for the colors?
    do your customers want these extra colors?
    If you had to do it over again would you do the other colors or go with Dual CMYK?
    Have you had any issues with the metallic ink in the heads/channels?
    How often does your machine do "self cleaning"

  2. 2B

    2B Very Active Member

    May 5, 2011
    No one running LmLc and/or White Metallic?
  3. hyperdrive

    hyperdrive Member

    Oct 30, 2009
    We have customers willing to pay extra for the metallic version.. we offer both and of course show samples... When.placed side by side with a process printed color versus the metallic version its an easy sell!!! Generally we get 25% more per print.

    There is the slowness involved with the white and metallic ,which is a bit of a bummer.. we usually print all the metallic orders overnight,making it a non issue.

    If I had it to do again is stick with it ... but do. wish it was faster.
    It doesn't really set us back due to having a.other printer running with of set up ,cmyk ..

  4. 2B

    2B Very Active Member

    May 5, 2011
    This is EXACTLY what we were looking for! THANKS for the info
  5. Bruce G.

    Bruce G. New Member

    Feb 25, 2013
    This is the dilemma I am having. How to configure my new VS300. These posts help a lot. THANKS
  6. Patentagosse

    Patentagosse Active Member

    Aug 17, 2011
    Joliette, Quebec (Canada)
    I run mine CMYKLcLmCM but haven't really seen major advantages as for colormatch. Previously I owned a SP-300 CMYK and it worked very fine. Yes, "maybe" for skin tones but for solid colors, gradients... invisible to the naked eye.

    I would opt for Dual CMYK if I had to do it again. That way you only have 4 colors to keep in stock instead of 6...
  7. petepaz

    petepaz Major Contributor

    Feb 14, 2007
    we have an xc540 cmyk (x2) w/ white, sp540 cmyk, lej640 cmyk w/ white + gloss and xr640 cmyk ltc ltm ltk w/ metallic. all work great and if we use metallic or white we charge for it but we don't usually have to offer the customer different options we just print what they want and charge for what we print. based on what we have done over the years being able to print white has come up more then the metallic.
  8. KaranGrewal

    KaranGrewal Member

    Jul 2, 2012
    Edmonton, Alberta
    before you go ahead with metallic ink , make sure if you can sell it to your clients, otherwise its a waste of money, white ink for sure is very handy. we have vs 640, with white and metalic ink. use white a lot on clear vinyl , but hardly any metalic. wish i had double white ink configration.
  9. Shadowglen

    Shadowglen Member

    Nov 29, 2012
    Dickinson, ND
    I currently am running a sp-540 and I am looking at adding a vs 540 before the end of the year. So how come once its inked it cant be changed? I see a lot of people posting that they can change with the other machines. maybe I need to step away from the Roland for a second machine? it looks like the general consensus is double cmyk for speed?

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