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Laminate Nightmare on Perf

Discussion in 'Vehicle Wraps' started by Gangnam, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. Gangnam

    Gangnam New Member

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    I cannot get a laminate on perf that I can see through. I've tried Valspar spray from Lowes, Superfrog frog juice, lamex 2 mil optically clear premium cast PVC gloss cold laminate, and two other lams we have in house. Nothing is working and it's driving me crazy.
     
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  2. wildside

    wildside Very Active Member

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    oracal 291 is optically clear, use it all the time

    are you laminating too soon and it is picking up the ink in the holes?
     
  3. ProColorGraphics

    ProColorGraphics Very Active Member

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    I have used the Briteline stuff from Grimco and it worked for me. I would only recommend it for flat windows though. Doesn't curve very well.
     
  4. gabagoo

    gabagoo Major Contributor

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    yup, you have to use an optically clear laminate and it is very pricey!!
     
  5. CS-SignSupply-TT

    CS-SignSupply-TT Very Active Member

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    OPTICALLY CLEAR LAMINATES available from CiberSupply

    Gangnam, CiberSupply here (metro Atlanta). We distribute General Formulations (aka GF) and we have their three (3) optically clear laminates. #105, #106, and #115

    Please let me know how I may help.
     
  6. Kentucky Wraps

    Kentucky Wraps Kentucky Wraps

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    Whoa...whoa...Valspar spray, that you can't see through? You aren't spraying it on the perf AFTER you install it on the window are you? If so...that's your problem. :)
    Other than that...you should be able to see through the perf after installed.
    Or am I missing something?
     
  7. Kentucky Wraps

    Kentucky Wraps Kentucky Wraps

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    Also, the optically clear lam is VERY thin and loading and unloading it onto the Laminator for one window job is a pain in the butt.
     
  8. Patentagosse

    Patentagosse Active Member

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    I'm a long time user of Oracal 290F but recently got a roll of their 297 which is also optically clear but thicker. It helps reduce the squeegee strokes. 'Work as fine as 290F.

    Gabagoo, the 290F is like $15 more than regular 290G at my source so that's not worth getting both rolls. I use 290F for ALL my window perf. & wrap jobs (same film only the release liner is different... paper vs. polyester). 'Never had a single issue about this selection.
     
  9. Circleville Signs

    Circleville Signs Very Active Member

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    dont lam perf. the end.
     
  10. Gangnam

    Gangnam New Member

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    I'm just testing it on regular perf. No image has been printed on it yet.
     
  11. Gangnam

    Gangnam New Member

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    I used the LAMEX 2Mil Opitcally Clear Premium Cast that the people at Fellers recommended to me. :/ still to cloudy to see out of.
     
  12. Gangnam

    Gangnam New Member

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    Spraying before install, letting it sit for 2 hours, still cloudy :/
     
  13. SightLine

    SightLine Very Active Member

    How can a sprayed clear on perf be hard to see through?

    If its a spray then it would not be in the holes once applied. In other words nothing but open air in the holes is hard to see through??? :help
     
  14. durafosinks

    durafosinks New Member

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    cloudy 2 hours later?!?!

    Maybe the windows were not properly cleaned and prepared prior to installation?
     
  15. Gangnam

    Gangnam New Member

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    I'm spraying the perf while it is still on the paper backing. The idea is fill in the holes to prevent moisture and dirt build up in the holes correct?
     
  16. CS-SignSupply-TT

    CS-SignSupply-TT Very Active Member

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    After applying the spray lam and letting it dry, preferably overnight, the perf should be ready to install. When you remove the backing/liner, the spray laminate that adhered to the backing/liner should be removed because it has adhered to the backing/liner.
     
  17. Circleville Signs

    Circleville Signs Very Active Member

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    Again - Don't laminate perf, unless the laws of your state require it.
     
  18. mudmedia

    mudmedia Active Member

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    I hope your not serious..
     
  19. Gangnam

    Gangnam New Member

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    Ok. So let us say that I have to laminate perf, what do I do now?
     
  20. Circleville Signs

    Circleville Signs Very Active Member

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    I am 100% serious. I NEVER laminate perf unless the job specs it (here in Ohio, that is a very rare occurance).

    Laminating perf does not provide enough protection to warrant the cost, and the fact that it makes it difficult to see ALL the time, rather than just when it rains, makes it more hassle than it's worth.

    If you MUST laminate, please understand that your client simply won't be able to see very well out of it, ever.
     
  21. "Deposit Please"

    "Deposit Please" Active Member

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    ...your going too heavy on the spray.
     
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