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Logo for input

Discussion in 'Logo Design' started by MikeSTK, Mar 1, 2011.

  1. MikeSTK

    MikeSTK Dawns Vinyl Designs

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    Not claiming anything on the ability front. Need to start somewhere.

    I want this logo to be able to be large, medium and very small. Trying to keep it simple and clean.

    I have plenty thick skin and appreciate professional critizism. Don't tip toe.

    :thankyou:
     

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  2. SignManiac

    SignManiac Major Contributor

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    For starters, close up the space between the e and s. In fact, connect them and twiddle the apostle.
     
  3. MikeSTK

    MikeSTK Dawns Vinyl Designs

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    Like so?
     

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  4. SignManiac

    SignManiac Major Contributor

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    much better
     
  5. mikey-Oh

    mikey-Oh Very Active Member

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    Not sure if you need the black strokes on the text and bars... Maybe some bolder colour's should be explored? (check the palette sections for insp)
     
  6. PromoGuyTy

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    Consider adding something, anything, of interest to this layout.

    (You said don't tip-toe).

    This layout makes me very sleepy.
     
  7. Mosh

    Mosh Major Contributor

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    make the "d" twice as big. nix the outliness. Let me guess, you just got a "sticker cutter" and is going into the sign biz??? Right? cause..... The Mosh can tell... look at the Kerning on the 's, you needs some skoolins on sign makinins Dawn fur sure! Yeah, what Mosh said, I agree! (please google kerning so you know what I am talikng about first off)
     
  8. SignManiac

    SignManiac Major Contributor

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    I don't have any fonts on this computer but you need to make it more interesting as suggested in the posts above. This is a five minute effort, not great, but an example of simplicity with a little flair.
     

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  9. Jillbeans

    Jillbeans Major Contributor

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    If you want to only make signs for the wedding and hair salon crowd, keep on going.
    Bob was right about the apostrophe but nothing makes this sign dynamic or makes me want to buy a sign off of you.
    The weak script, the blah colors, it is just so bland.
    You might like it but will a potential client?
    (say a landscaper with a small fleet of 10 trucks who needs a logo and tons of signs)
    I think you are trying for a classy look, but this looks very girly.
    Yes the name is a woman's name, but a woman can be tough, colorful, and eye-catching.
    Like me.
    hahahaha
    Design for who you are trying to sell to, not just to please yourself.
    Love.....Jill
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    Kudos on not spelling graphics with an X.
     
  10. Custom_Grafx

    Custom_Grafx Very Active Member

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    I wish I could change my nick...
     
  11. MikeSTK

    MikeSTK Dawns Vinyl Designs

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    Thank you for the input so far!

    I have been reading as fast as I can regarding signs, maybe too much to digest. Tinkering and asking for input will only help me grasp important aspects quicker.

    Here's what I am trying to obtain:

    Large sign
    Letterheads
    Will work in a single color
    The ability to recreate very tiny within projects
    Readable in any size

    Maybe say an electrician needs truck signs and business cards, but trying to work on vinyl or printing would require a much broader range of uses.

    Am I at least glancing in the right direction?
     
  12. John Butto

    John Butto Very Active Member

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    Am I at least glancing in the right direction?

    You certainly are.
     
  13. signmeup

    signmeup Major Contributor

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    Too complicated for your stated uses. Here's a simple idea.
     

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  14. CES020

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    If you want to achieve reading from a distance and reading when very tiny, as you said, you need to lose that font. Those fine lines in there will disappear from a distance and be too small to see when it's "tiny", will end up being a single strand of thread if you have it sewn on a shirt, etc.

    I went to a quote a job about a year ago. They needed pan faces for their street sign, and then signs on their building. They handed me their card and the entire thing was in a font like that. They insisted on keeping the font. I insisted no one would be able to read it. I refused to quote the job for them in that style font.

    Drive by there 3 months later, I see the sign, you can't tell the name of the place or what they sell. You literally can't read the sign while driving down the road. I've been by there many times since and I never see cars in their lot. Not because they don't have a good business, but because no one knows they are there because they can't read the freakin' sign!

    Thicken it up!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a graphics designer, don't know anything about graphic design, and don't pretend to be a graphic designer, but I can read from my car while driving down the road (if the sign is clear enough to read!).
     
  15. CanuckSigns

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    :goodpost: Simple, easy to read and has some interest!
     
  16. MikeSTK

    MikeSTK Dawns Vinyl Designs

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    I follow the issues surrounding the font. I guess I was attempting "classy". I knew I didn't want something that had a cheap or inexpensive look.

    Reflecting on it I guess I am trying for too much from a single design.

    I am working on making it better and I will post as I "correct" it.

    Maybe if I can get some thoughts from this standpoint. My plan was if I made it large for a storefront I could add some text to the bottom, maybe more detailed info on what is offered BUT if I needed it shrunk I could eliminate everything but the oval with Dawn's on it.

    One last thought, I really do appreciate the examples but I am not trying to get someone to design it. All I am hoping for is explanation of theory so I can correct, post and get feedback from experienced people here.

    Please comment on the next trial.
     
  17. MikeSTK

    MikeSTK Dawns Vinyl Designs

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    Is this getting closer to acceptable?

    I am scared of going too crazy with color. I tried a number of combinations and although something seems wrong I just can"t place it.

    I tried color sites to stay within the same family, think I will revisit that.
     

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  18. BlueFishDesigns

    BlueFishDesigns Very Active Member

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    Sorry, but that's not better. Why "Dawn's"? I'm just not a big fan of business names that use a person's first name. Seems small-time, to me. Besides that, the font is too plain and too thin.

    You should put what the business does larger than Dawn's. If I drove by that, I would see Dawn's and miss the rest and wonder what the hell Dawn was selling. By the first post, I would think clothes or flowers.

    I used to own a sign shop and found that most of my customers were male and didn't give me alot of respect because I was a female. I could tell them the same info and say it came from my dad or husband and that carried more weight with them. Just sayin', the female name might keep some male customer's away.
     
  19. MikeSTK

    MikeSTK Dawns Vinyl Designs

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    Thank you! Funny thing is I thought I was pretty happy the first draft. The things people are pointing out has me wondering how I could even have posted the first one.

    Complete lack of understanding of the art on my part.

    Better?
     

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  20. signmeup

    signmeup Major Contributor

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    Drop the green horizontal lines and the brown diamonds at the top. Now drop the oval and narrow "Vinyl Graphics" to fit below "Dawn's".

    Forgot.... design it in a single colour if you want it to work in a single colour.
     
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