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Material for full window decals installed inside facing out?

Discussion in 'General Signmaking Topics' started by rm5690, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. rm5690

    rm5690 Member

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    What material(s) would you use for printing full window decals that are mounted on the inside of the building with the printed graphic facing outwards?

    Obviously I can't print on the adhesive side. I'm familiar with Drytac's WindowTac, I just haven't used it personally.

    But what base material should I use?

    I'd be using an HP 560 and hiring out installers, and I'd be open to sub'ing out the entire job if necessary, I'd just prefer to do this in-house.
     
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    wow, dude
     
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  3. ewded

    ewded Active Member

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    print on clear vinyl in mirror, laminate with white vinyl, apply wet :)

    It just blows my mind people can afford 15k+ printers with no basic knowledge of the industry, no offense, just saying.
     
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  4. MikePro

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    harsh, bruh. noobs have feelings too.
    ....and +1 to stated above, at least the production part. however, simply backing the print with white vinyl WILL blockout most light transmission and ALL visibility.
    you can also:
    -substitute-in white perforated vinyl (like 3M 3635-210) applied over the top of your mirror'd clear-print, if partial visibility through the window is desired, but the image won't be visible if it is dark outside and the lights are on inside.
    -substitue-in white diffuser vinyl (like 3M 3735-70) applied over the top of your mirror'd clear-print, if partial light transmission through the window is desired, so that people inside can tell if its still daylight outside.
     
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  5. rm5690

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    Sorry, didn't realize I had to spell out all of the individual factors that I was already taking into consideration in order to make it seem like I had a "basic knowledge of the industry".

    Next time I'll be sure to include a full disclaimer about being self taught along with multiple apologies for asking advice from people who clearly know more than me, but I digress.

    Light transmission isn't even part of the equation in this case, these are just covering vacant storefront windows until they figure out the next tenant.

    If it was a decal on the outside it wouldn't be an issue, but since it's going on the inside I wasn't sure if the material really made a difference since I've seen articles on here about the danger of fully-covered windows absorbing too much heat from the sun and breaking.


    Oh and in case I forgot to say it already, sorry for asking for advice, I'll think twice about it next time or maybe just go huff some solvent and chew on some pvc instead :toasting:
     
  6. bannertime

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    Non-adhesive vinyl, poster, or even banner with a strip of perm/rem tape around the edges.
     
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  7. fresh

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    I use clear Glass Apeel, mirror print, and then back it up with white vinyl. Typically General Formulations 201 because its white with clear adhesive. This combo seems to be working well for us.

    http://www.glassapeel.net/the-product/
     
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  8. Christian @ 2CT Media

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    Use a banner or fabric material with temp tape strips across the the top and bottom. Save yourself some hassles and speed up your install.
     
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  9. d fleming

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    white static cling.
     
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  10. Reveal1

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    Maybe not such a dumb question after all considering he got six different ways of doing it? I'll add a seventh; panovision perf which tapes from inside.
     
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  11. zspace

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    Light transmission may be important. If you hang banners the space will feel pretty dark and closed in. Clear with a white vinyl backer will at least let some light through. You might use that as a way to upsell the customer to fabric or panovision.

    Good luck with the project.
     
  12. Christian @ 2CT Media

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    You all missed where he said it was vacant space
     
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  13. RICHARD SIMMONS

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    Print on clear vinyl in mirror, laminate with white vinyl !! That's it !!
     
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  14. Billct2

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    Vacant space? Unless this is one of those high end places that like to spend lots of money on marketing- print on paper or poly and tape to the inside of the glass.
    Save the client lots of money and you look like a hero.
     
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    ams Very Active Member

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    Be careful, many windows are tinted so when you remove it later, it's going to rip off the tint.
     
  17. Gino

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    According to the size of these windows, printing on synthetic paper and taping to the inside.... would be your best bet all around. I think the banner material might sag, if there is too much area to cover.

    This way, if work is being done inside, no one will see the mess, until they're ready to open it back up.
     
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  18. McDonald Signs

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    Signs365 has DUAL View Window Decals printed ONE Side or Both Sides
     
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  19. rm5690

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    It kind of is – it's a university. We've just never done something of this nature for them so Im trying to be careful with this bid so I can get more of their signage orders.

    Right now Im planning on Drytac's SilkScape PP with their WindowTac adhesive...I haven't had great luck with papers on the 560 – do you have a synthetic paper that works well for you?
     
  20. Z SIGNS

    Z SIGNS Very Active Member

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    print on a piece of coro.Small piece of tape to keep it from falling out of the window.
     
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