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Minority Business Enterprise a factor in evaluating bids for city projects?

Discussion in 'Business Management' started by SignProPlus-Chip, Jun 4, 2012.

  1. SignProPlus-Chip

    SignProPlus-Chip Active Member

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    OK, maybe someone else here can educate me a bit on this. We saw this while reading through the requirements for bidding on a job with the city. Does this mean if our bid is the same as a Woman or minority owed business they will favor them over us?
     

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  2. Fred Weiss

    Fred Weiss Merchant Member

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    Yes.
     
  3. WildWestDesigns

    WildWestDesigns Major Contributor

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    It depends on if they meet the other criteria as well, but on it's face, if all is equal it certainly looks that way.

    That's being hopeful though that they will look at the other criteria after they notice the women/minority is met.
     
  4. CS-SignSupply

    CS-SignSupply Very Active Member

    More than likely YES. We have lost several bids to School Boards and other Municipalities due to such.
     
  5. SightLine

    SightLine Very Active Member

    Also - someone can even have a HIGHER price than yours and still get the job over you simply because of their skin color or gender. We have lost jobs due to this also. :frustrated:
     
  6. btropical.com

    btropical.com Active Member

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    Wear something flamboyant maybe you will make a blip on their gaydar
     
  7. showcase 66

    showcase 66 Very Active Member

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    I have a couple of friends that have their wives as the owner of the company as they are also minorities according to the government just for these reasons.
     
  8. CanuckSigns

    CanuckSigns Very Active Member

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    reverse racism
     
  9. signage

    signage Major Contributor

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    Yea, But this is America:wavingflag: and things don't go as they should:omg:
     
  10. Scott Reynolds

    Scott Reynolds Active Member

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    This is standard here in Vegas. I also know people that do this, it works.
     
  11. Flame

    Flame Major Contributor

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    I know people who have flat gotten RICH from this. Being a minority or a woman, or even better...BOTH, will land you government jobs very easily.
     
  12. Pat Whatley

    Pat Whatley Major Contributor

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    So you're saying that if I marry a black woman, with a child, who is a veteran injured in combat, we live in a housing project and she owns the business we're almost guaranteed to have Bill Gates kind of money in the next five years?
     
  13. SightLine

    SightLine Very Active Member

    I know many do this. This can also backfire badly if they happen to get divorced and things are not amicable......

     
  14. SD&F

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    You must still meet all required criteria and if all is equal(or not) they will be looked at first and considered first. This is also for vetran owned businesses as well.
     
  15. BIG EASY DOES IT

    BIG EASY DOES IT Very Active Member

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    Big time. This happens to us all the time. We big on jobs come in at the best pricing. Get the job and then they decide that since were not minority or women owned they give the job to somebody else. Not just sign jobs. Construction, Traffic Control, etc. This is the biggest piece of BS I've have ever seen. Stupid. But if you are a white owned business your in luck. For 2012 they have predicted that the whites will have a lower birth rate then almost all minorities in the states. Thus making white people the minority. We are going to try and run as a minority owned business.
    Especially because other companies not naming names. Are man owned for 20 years and then when a special contract goes out for bid they put their wives name as the owner of the company and get the job. I can't stand this ahhhhhhhh.....

    So in other words if you see that on a bid sheet or something don't even bother bidding on the job.
     
  16. SD&F

    SD&F Very Active Member

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    I am a woman, I run and own the business.....I don't fly that particular flag.
     
  17. Pat Whatley

    Pat Whatley Major Contributor

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    It happens all the time, too. I've got a construction group I do work for that's made up of six companies all operating under the same umbrella. There's a woman owned company, an Indian owned company, a black owned company...whatever they need to get federal contracts. They've gone as far as paying part of the mortgage for one of their employees to buy a house in an impoverished district because they needed so show they were hiring from that district to get a contract with the local Air Force base. They've got a guy working there who's job is to figure out how to bid on jobs to their best advantage.
     
  18. FatCat

    FatCat Very Active Member

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    Sickening, and sad. I feel there was a time when this was necessary to level the playing field for women and minorities. However, I feel that time has looong passed.
     
  19. SD&F

    SD&F Very Active Member

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    Pat, that is absolutely illegal and they are operating in a manner which would put them in prison and have extensive fines. You must submit your corporate paperwork to be certifed as one of these businesses. If they are doing that, then they must have a set of paperwork that is geared toward each particular minority. They must also provide tax imformation that should be getting checked. That is wrong and quite diasppointing for those of us who are ethical and try to do things the right way.
     
  20. ucmj22

    ucmj22 Very Active Member

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    no such thing. I hate that phrase. if its racism, its racism. No such thing as "reverse" racism. And this really has nothing to do with racism anyway, not even bigotry. Its a simple Prejudice (and this situation barely fits that description).
    P.S. I am against this preferential treatment, just hate the way "Racism" is thrown out there for everything.
     
  21. 2B

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    +1 had it happen to us also even though ours was a superior product for the same price
     
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