Thanks, I knew that it was a rebranded Mutoh, while I was watching a video from Conde, yesterday, David Gross, (the guru) said that it uses an epson head. I haven't heard that one before, so that kind of thru me for a loop. We are really looking to print florescent colors, and this larger, (than a Sawgrass SG800) is the only one that fits the bill for our needs. Thanks again!