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New HP Latex 700 and 800 series - with White ink

balstestrat

Problem Solver
There's seems to be a lot of stuff already out there so proper thread seems appropriate.

HP Latex 700 - $17,695.00 (1L cartridge)
HP Latex 700W - $21,695.00
HP Latex 800 - $27,995.00 (3L cartridge)
HP Latex 800W - $29,995.00

https://www8.hp.com/us/en/printers/large-format/latex-800-printer-series.html
https://www8.hp.com/us/en/printers/large-format/latex-700-printer-series.html


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balstestrat

Problem Solver
Hmm...overcoat?
The videos show overcoat ink box and overcoat print head.
Overcoat is the anti-scratch agent that in previous 3rd generation was mixed in the ink.
In this 4th gen it's separated to it's own supply and printhead. That way you can disable it if you laminate -> save on ink (overcoat) and get stronger adhesion.
This same system is in the R-series.
 
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BigfishDM

Merchant Member
Well what do you guys want to know? Any materials you want to see printed on it? Send me your requests and I will get you print samples. This one in my opinion is going to do very well against the Mimaki series!!
 

bwizz

New Member
3 Layer Colour/white/Colour an estimate around 2sqm an hour giving the printhead size and allowing curing time for all 3 layers of ink
 

balstestrat

Problem Solver
I’d like to see the print speeds with and without white
You can print about two passed higher speed than previous models.
6p for vinyl is decent, 4p for banner etc.

Printing modes L800W
122 m²/hr - Max Speed (1-pass)
36 m²/hr - High Speed (4-pass)
25 m²/hr - Production Fast (6-pass)
20 m²/hr - Production Quality, Textiles and Backlits (8-pass)
17 m²/hr - High Saturation (12-pass)
14 m²/hr - High Saturation Backlits and Textiles (14-pass)
17 m²/hr - White Spot (60%)
9 m²/hr - White Overflood (60%)
3 m²/hr - White Underflood (100%)
2 m²/hr - 3 Layers Day & Night (160%)

Printing modes L700W
105 m²/hr - Max Speed (1-pass)
31 m²/hr - High Speed (4-pass)
21 m²/hr - Production Fast (6-pass)
17 m²/hr - Production Quality, Textiles and Backlits (8-pass)
16 m²/hr - High Saturation (12-pass)
12 m²/hr - High Saturation Backlits and Textiles (14-pass)
17 m²/hr - White Spot (60%)
9 m²/hr - White Overflood (60%)
3 m²/hr - White Underflood (100%)
2 m²/hr - 3 Layers Day & Night (160%)
 
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chrisphilipps

Merchant Member
Below are the speeds that HP quoted to the dealer channel last week in our sneak peak session. I believe that these speeds are based on the 800 Series, which according to HP is about 16% faster than the 700 series. We should be receiving our demo unit in shortly and once we do can provide demos and more detailed feedback.

· 4 pass ~ 388 SFPH
· 6 Pass ~ 280 SFPH
· 8-Pass ~ 215 SFPH

Also the new 832/872 inks for the 700/800 Series is a different formulation from the 300/500 series inks. They have more pigment per drop which either enables less ink to get the same color or more vivid images at the same ink loads. The scratch inhibitors have been removed from the ink and are now their own dedicated Over Coat ink. This allows you to turn it on or off depending on if you are laminating or not. The inks are also formulated to cure at temperatures up to 30% lower than the previous generation inks.

These printers also use a new print head design with roughly 50% more nozzles than the 300/500 series print head. The newer head also has a new nozzle shape that allows for printing of 4 point text. They also lowered the picolitre drop size from 13 to 10 on these new heads.
 

balstestrat

Problem Solver
Here is some changes and new things on 700/800's compared to the 300/500's.
I also have a L800W on my hands Right now so if you want to know something about it, ask away, I'll tell you.

- New ink with White and a separate Overcoat that can be disabled for lamination.
- New curing system for the lower temperatures with new ink.
- New 1L ink cartridge for the small and 3L big cartridge like previously.
- New bigger printheads with a new nozzle design. Text crisps and readable even down to 4pt text.
- New better display and faster operating system in the printer.
- New print queye in the printer to line up jobs and re-print directly from printer.
- New color profiler system in the printer to hit color targets even more accurate than before.
- New dancerless take-up system.
- New cutter to cut more materials than before.
- New media path to have a better media load and movement.
- Faster print speeds than before.
- Better color gamut.
- White ink recirculation and no white ink waste, printheads are removed when not used.
- Better lenght and color consistency with new systems and lower curing temperature.
 

balstestrat

Problem Solver
Official spec sheets for 700 and 800.

https://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c06990648
https://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c06990646

Printing modes L800W
122 m²/hr - Max Speed (1-pass)
36 m²/hr - High Speed (4-pass)
25 m²/hr - Production Fast (6-pass)
20 m²/hr - Production Quality, Textiles and Backlits (8-pass)
17 m²/hr - High Saturation (12-pass)
14 m²/hr - High Saturation Backlits and Textiles (14-pass)
17 m²/hr - White Spot (60%)
9 m²/hr - White Overflood (60%)
3 m²/hr - White Underflood (100%)
2 m²/hr - 3 Layers Day & Night (160%)

Printing modes L700W
105 m²/hr - Max Speed (1-pass)
31 m²/hr - High Speed (4-pass)
21 m²/hr - Production Fast (6-pass)
17 m²/hr - Production Quality, Textiles and Backlits (8-pass)
16 m²/hr - High Saturation (12-pass)
12 m²/hr - High Saturation Backlits and Textiles (14-pass)
17 m²/hr - White Spot (60%)
9 m²/hr - White Overflood (60%)
3 m²/hr - White Underflood (100%)
2 m²/hr - 3 Layers Day & Night (160%)

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