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Node editing... it wears me out.

Discussion in 'Flexi' started by graywoulf, Aug 26, 2010.

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  1. graywoulf

    graywoulf Member

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    Is it just me or does any of you spend too much time cleaning up a traced object using the many tools Flexi has to offer? Even when a traced object looks good it still needs some tweaking and what make it harder to do is that the handles on let's say the "Optimize by Curve" tool are the same size and the same color as the nodes and the lines that are showing on the graphic outline. Even if I change the color of the outline to a highly contrasting color it still makes it hard to see what I am trying to work with. So I guess what I would like to know is are any of you dealing with the same thing or am I missing something in the way of tweaking my workspace in Flexi?
     
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  2. ABPGraphics

    ABPGraphics Active Member

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    It's pretty monotonous work. I wish there was an easier way to do it but in my opinion it's about as simple as it gets. I mean drawing complex shapes like flames and what not takes forever but that's why you charge design time right?
     
  3. mark-s

    mark-s Active Member

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    Nature of the beast, no tracing program will give you a perfect trace.
    Depending apon how many traces I have done in a day sometimes I see those damn
    nodes in my sleep.
    mark-s
     
  4. SignosaurusRex

    SignosaurusRex Major Contributor

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    I actually find it enjoyable, even therapeutic, especially when I'm getting paid for it!
     
  5. ddubia

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    I love it too Rex, for the same reasons. Do mine in Illustrator. Flexi certainly has many tools that seem great for the job and I do use Flexi a lot. But having worked in Illustrator for many years and Flexi for only a couple, when it comes to node editing I still feel more comfortable with Illustrator.
     
  6. Steve C.

    Steve C. Very Active Member

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    I find it therapeutic also, but not in flexi. What a pain in the backside.
    Node editing in corel is a pleasure and far far easier than the tedious
    controls in flexi. If you tweek your trace setting in flexi it is the best
    trace program I have used. It's only redeeming quality.
     
  7. James Burke

    James Burke Being a grandpa is more fun than working

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    I take my stuff into AutoCAD to do my node editing. It has way more object snaps and a mulititude of precision drawing tools. Let's not forget the handy Wacom tablet and pen...what a life saver.

    JB
     
  8. Malkin

    Malkin Very Active Member

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    We use Gerber & Illustrator... and I much prefer working on nodes in Gerber. I recently discovered you can increase the size of them for easier viewing/grabbing.
     
  9. emo

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    Gerber node editing is a breeze for me personally. Corel is not bad and some effects are SO simple that Corel is my preference. Still trying to get a "handle" on node editing in Illy but perhaps that's the trouble - they're so damn small !!!
     
  10. Techman

    Techman Major Contributor

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    Whats node editing? I haven't done that in a very long time.
    I just gave away my backup cutter. My main has not felt power in weeks.

    I have vinyl in the closet that's been there for a couple of years.

    I have not opened a clip art file for so long i forgot what is here.

    My encad calls to me once a week just to say it is ready for another print job.

    But I just got Corel X5 and noticed the book is completely different. Chapter 8 is on sign making. Chapter 12 is on book cover and illustration. I really like this. Chapter 14 is on logo design.

    But it still cannot export DFX files in a usable format. And my cnc router just had its controller modified to run faster. I have a need for speed. And node editing is not speedy.
     
  11. CheapVehicleWrap

    CheapVehicleWrap Very Active Member

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    Have you seen Nodes the movie?
     
  12. emo

    emo Member

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    I missed Nodes the movie but I did see the sequel; Revenge of the Nodes.
     
  13. 7oaks

    7oaks Active Member

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    If you spend too much time node editing why not send to Vector Doctor and do something else. pass cost on to consumer. I find him fast and fair priced.

    Ken
     
  14. Gene@mpls

    Gene@mpls Very Active Member

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    I enjoy it also- don't usually have time to really hunker down with it. Maybe
    it is an old guy thing? I just noticed the avatars of SteveC and ddubia- are
    you the same person? I think I could fit right into this lineup as well.
     
  15. The Vector Doctor

    The Vector Doctor Very Active Member

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    Awesome idea!:tongue: Seriously. If someone sends me a file that is already vector for instance, I find it is much quicker to redraw from scratch rather than adjusting each node, adjusting control handles, removing nodes etc. Much quicker to redraw then fiddle with each node or group of nodes
     
  16. Steve C.

    Steve C. Very Active Member

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    No. He's a handsome fellow, but I'm much better looking. :rolleyes::Big Laugh

    I spend a LOT of time editing nodes in the creation of fonts. Using Corel and
    Fontlab.
     
  17. OldPaint

    OldPaint Major Contributor

    corel is best............for this. wasnt always that way. the newer versions 10 and up have greatly improved over older versions. SIGN-LAB has always been one of the best for this.
     
  18. graywoulf

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    Thanks for the input guys!

    Well I'm glad to find out that I am not alone on this issue but I do appreciate every one's input and suggestions. I'm not much of a AI user but maybe I will give it's node editing capabilities a closer look based on the comments made here. I do not have Corel so that is out but not to be entirely wrote off for future reference. I have mentioned this thread to the design staff at SAI in hopes that they read the things you guys have said about the limited node editing capabilities in Flexi in hopes that they consider making some much needed upgrades to this area.:peace!:
     
  19. Techman

    Techman Major Contributor

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    You will hate it for sure.
    The node points are nearly impossible to grasp if you can even see them. It will be revenge of the evasive nodes.
     
  20. The Vector Doctor

    The Vector Doctor Very Active Member

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    I use AI for every vector conversion. I have no problem editing & grabbing nodes. I am on a 23 inch monitor so maybe that helps
     
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