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Discussion in 'Tips & Tricks' started by Jim Hill, Jun 10, 2010.

  1. Jim Hill

    Jim Hill Active Member

    I made some stickers for a customer for the outside of his business windows for a car show.

    Now he has asked me to make some more but he wants them to be placed on the inside of the windows this time.

    I am using a Roland Versacamm but have never done this.

    Any help you can offer would be great.

    Thanks Jim
     
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  2. petepaz

    petepaz Major Contributor

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    print on clear vinyl but click the mirror box in your set up (versa works) and the decal will print backwards after it is dry or done outgassing/airgassing
    laminate white vinyl to it ...bam...instant window decal
     
  3. BigfishDM

    BigfishDM Merchant Member

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    Or you can just print on a polypro material and use face mount adhesive. Its quick and your images look great.
     
  4. petepaz

    petepaz Major Contributor

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    sorry make sure when you put the white vinyl on you don't cover your print/cut alignment marks only cover the decal are this way you can still put it back in the machine to cut
     
  5. Ponto

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    ....I've covered the alignment marks with low tac premask, laminated with the white and then trimmed the alignment area covered by the premask.... marks stay in place and you're off to the races........

    JP
     
  6. bob

    bob Major Contributor

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    You people work way too hard. A rudimentary understanding of simple geometry is all that's needed.

    Don't worry about the registration marks. Print the mirror image on the clear, laminate with the white [be sure to use a white with a clear adhesive], flip the print over, clear side up, load it in your plotter, and mirror the cut image back to normal.

    In other words, print the mirror image, cut the non-mirrored image. This assumes that you're using 4 registrations marks ala the Graphtec type one or type two. Your mileage may vary. It also assumes that you're competent to set your plotter just so to cut the laminated print sans backing.
     
  7. BigfishDM

    BigfishDM Merchant Member

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    Solvent Photo Paper $0.23 sq.ft
    Double Sided Optically Clear Permanent/Removable Face mount $0.39

    Is the other way cheaper?
     
  8. sjm

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  9. Jim Hill

    Jim Hill Active Member

    Thanks for the advice.

    Please explain just what these materials are.

    polypro material and face mount adhesive?

    Should my supply house have these materials or do I need to order them somewhere else?

    Thanks Jim
     
  10. cgsigns_jamie

    cgsigns_jamie Very Active Member

    If I'm reading this right (I'm sure you'll let me know otherwise)
    After you've laminated your printed clear vinyl with white vinyl. You remove the graphic from the liner/backing then load it into your plotter, clear side up.
     
  11. sjm

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    The laminate that is printed on has a clear backer. So there is nothing to remove.
     
  12. cgsigns_jamie

    cgsigns_jamie Very Active Member

    I think that's where I'm getting confused... I'm thinking you're printing on clear vinyl than laminating with white vinyl.
     
  13. sjm

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    Yes you understand correct about backing up the print that has been printed mirror image on a cast or calendered PSA laminate with a white vinyl that has a clear adhesive vs and opaque one.

    I think the confusion lies in that you understood the material you printed on had a white backer and not a clear backer as described.
     
  14. cgsigns_jamie

    cgsigns_jamie Very Active Member

    Even if it had a clear backer and you cut it on the plotter, wouldn't you have to cut through the liner and both layers of vinyl?
     
  15. petepaz

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    you can't do that on a versa camm
    the way the alignment marks print they can only go one way
    one corner has a dot plus a rectanlge so it can not be put in the wrong way but nice try
     
  16. sjm

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    Do it all the time. In fact it works great and we just recently designed a template this way to ensure that a guitar that we were going to directly image onto before we CNC'ed a 1.75" piece of material to house the guitar during transport through our flatbed fit precisely.
     
  17. BigfishDM

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    Polypropylene is a nice tear resistant material that looks almost like a photo paper but is tear proof. Face mount is double sided clear tape that is permanent on one side and removable on the other. It is also optically clear so you dont distort your graphics. You should buy them from me cause I sell those products and my price should be better then your other company.
     
  18. btropical.com

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    We print as usual and then place a square or round of clear vinyl from backside with 3/8 overlap to stick to inside of windshield . Supply customer with regular stickers and give him a handfull of clear backings . Let him do the work if its just a couple of stickers .
     
  19. ddarlak

    ddarlak Trump Hater

    you even work too hard....

    print decal reverse image on clear.

    contour cut

    take a can of white spray paint and paint it....

    DONE
     
  20. ddarlak

    ddarlak Trump Hater

    i would argue that a rudimentary understanding of signmaking is better in this case than your knowledge base of geometry.....
     
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