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Need Help Question Oce Colorado 1640 Brittle Media

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Printers' started by Luke Handford, Jan 14, 2019.

  1. Luke Handford

    Luke Handford New Member

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    Hi all,

    We've had a Colorado for around 6 months now & when we first got the machine, it was amazing. I couldn't fault it!

    However, in the past 2/3 months, we've been having issues with our media cracking & splitting upon application (mainly external application to glass windows).

    I've tweaked the internal machine temperature & the curing lamp intensity, but the issue still persists.

    If anyone has any information that could shine some light on why this issue is occurring, I'd be very appreciative!
     
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  2. CL Visual

    CL Visual Member

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    We just had one installed. They told us upfront that brittle media is an issue. I have someone coming by to attempt a work around for it. I'll let you know if I have any success.
     
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  3. Luke Handford

    Luke Handford New Member

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    Yes, we've also had people come to try help but we've had no luck. Hopefully, you'll get further!
    Thanks :)
     
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  4. Grizzly

    Grizzly Member

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    Well this is comforting... We are installing a Colorado next week. Hopefully they figure out the issue.
     
  5. Luke Handford

    Luke Handford New Member

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    I hope they do too!
    what do you print mainly?
     
  6. Luke Handford

    Luke Handford New Member

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    If they're all certified medias that you plan on using you might not have any issues.
    However, some of the products we use aren't 'approved medias'.
    It's just a bit frustrating to have to be limited to an approved list. :(
     
  7. Luke Handford

    Luke Handford New Member

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    Thank you Jim, although I'm aware of these pre profiled media's. We still have splitting with some of these medias too! :(
    I think it may be just our machine (hopefully for the sake of anyone else who has a Colorado!)
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2019
  8. sti05808

    sti05808 New Member

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    Same problem here, very poor adhesion and flexibility on almost all the medias throw at this thing. The only thing that seems reliable is IJ180 and paper. We have also tried styrene using canon's profiles and its not even printable. Styrene was purchased from canon as well, they have it in their sample book. Our trainer has told us styrene has issues, but yet its still published in the sample book and the website with profiles. I even managed to get ink peeling on some of the medias in their sample book.... In my opinion the "pre profiled" settings are just as experimental as what you do at your own shop. We have been working with canon help desk on this issue. Canon would send us modified or updated profiles for us to test. Same problems. They logged in and played with the print mode settings etc, all the things that you or I would do as per canon's troubleshooting steps in the manual. Same results, Canon has concluded that it is due to 3M's quality control on the IJ35 rolls and shifted blame to our supplier. The same roll prints perfect on our HP Latex... We are working with our supplier and Canon has gone silent on this issue lol.....
     
  9. Colorado owner

    Colorado owner New Member

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    All self adhesive vinyls will become more brittle using the Colorado platform. The ink cures hard as glass and change the vinyl and therefor it shatter easily. The only thing that does work is to work with thicker vinyls as their integrity become less compromised. We have been told that Canon/Oce is working on a new ink formulation that is more flexible but it may be that the ink is not the only issue as it could also be the curing method. Canon/Oce originally decided to be less than transparent about this and there were many months before they agreed that this was a major issue. There is no work around for this as even a laminated product is compromised. We have done extensive testing and for anything critical we are back onto eco solvent.
     
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