quotation marks

[deadman]

ok, here is another.

do you edit your quotation marks or leave them alone?

I usually leave these alone, but every once in a while a customer mentions it.

 

[Fred Weiss]

ok, here is another.

do you edit your quotation marks or leave them alone?

I usually leave these alone, but every once in a while a customer mentions it.

I always use Alt 0147 and Alt 0148 for quotation marks. Otherwise you sometimes get inch marks instead of the true quotation marks.

 

[WrapperX]

What do you mean "quotation marks" - LOL I used quotations around quotation marks....

Seriously - what sort of usage of quotation marks would you edit?

 

[WrapperX]

Or do you mean the look of them in your designs? Like changing them to an outline so you can adjust them in Illustrator....

I would say it depends on the Font - sometimes they look alright sometimes they look funky.

 

[deadman]

when you type them, in Times for example, they do not encase the letters. The left side does, but the right looks exactly like the left. Some people thing the quotation marks should encase the letters within, rather than be the same on both sides of the text.

 

[J Hill Designs]

called 'smart quotes'

 

[Fred Weiss]

when you type them, in Times for example, they do not encase the letters. The left side does, but the right looks exactly like the left. Some people thing the quotation marks should encase the letters within, rather than be the same on both sides of the text.

Using keyboard standard quote = "Quote"

Using Alt characters 0147 and 0148 = “Quote”

There’s more to typing than just what’s on your keyboard.

 

[deadman]

Fred,

Thats a cool tip, does that work in all software?

I primarily use Gerber.

 

[Fred Weiss]

Fred,

Thats a cool tip, does that work in all software?

I primarily use Gerber.

Not for Gerber fonts since they have never quite accepted Windows standards. Most Windows fonts, however, do have lots of standardized symbols. You can view any installed font on your system by going to Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map. Non-keyboard characters are entered by holding down the Alt key and entering the number from the numeric keypad only.

Some of the most commonly used are:

Alt 0146 = True Apostrophe
Alt 0147 = True Left Quote
Alt 0147 = True Right Quote
Alt 0149 = Bullet
Alt 0153 = ™
Alt 0162 = ¢
Alt 0169 = ©
Alt 0174 = ®
Alt 0176 = Degree Sign

 

[Dzrt1st]

Not to be a but what about hyphens/dashes?

I once had a designer reject an engraved donor plaque plaque because I used a hyphen rather than an em dash on one line of text. Until then I didn't know about em dashes and en dashes.

 

[WrapperX]

What are these Alt 0146 and 0147's you refer to? How do you use them or how do you type them?

 

[J Hill Designs]

hold down alt, and type 0 1 4 6 on the numpad then let go of alt

 

[WrapperX]

That is a pretty nifty trick - I've never known that...I guess that's what makes me an installation guy and not a design guy.

 

[thewood]

I always use Alt 0147 and Alt 0148 for quotation marks. Otherwise you sometimes get inch marks instead of the true quotation marks.

Me too, Fred.

 

[mikey-Oh]

Not to be a but what about hyphens/dashes?

I once had a designer reject an engraved donor plaque plaque because I used a hyphen rather than an em dash on one line of text. Until then I didn't know about em dashes and en dashes.

En Dash ALT+0150
Em Dash ALT+0151

The alt codes are shown in windows character map
or in the Type Menu under Glyphs for Illustrator Users

 

[niksagkram]

My favorites are....

alt 0188 = ¼
alt 0189 = ½
alt 0190 = ¾

Mark ♪♪♪ (alt 13)

 

[niksagkram]

Here's a character map you can print out for reference.....

http://wickidevel.com/index.php/ALT_Character_MAP_Look-up_Table



Mark

 

[rfulford]

Sorry, but I've got to stick it to you PC guys here. On a mac, smart quotes and special characters are handled with corded strokes. Its just as easy as typing a capital letter

Open quotes are “option > left bracket”
Close quotes are “option > shift > left bracket”

 

[James Burke]

And yes...they MUST look like sixes (on the left) and nines (on the right)...not a mirrored set of sixes or set of nines....sheeesh!

JB