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Need Help Remove & Replace job... Vinyl won't come off

Discussion in 'General Signmaking Topics' started by signshoppdx, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. signshoppdx

    signshoppdx New Member

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    Its just shredding and brittle (chilly outside, but sunny) and he has to take 30 of them off. HELP - any suggestions? He's using a heat gun and it isn't helping.
     
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    Signcraft Digital New Member

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    is it old vinyl? that would be why it is cracking in little bits, probably the cooler temp doesn't help... what about getting it really hot?
     
  3. IDB Signs

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    What are you removing it from? If its a sheet substrate it may be cheaper and easier to replace the panel. Obviously this won't work if it is on a vehicle or something.
     
  4. JR's

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    photo?
     
  5. 2B

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    you can try a commercial steamer
    or be heavy-handed with Rapid Removal

    for the really brittle stuff, we rent a high pressure, high temp washer.
    NOTE this makes a HORRIBLE MESS, best to do it where cleanup is easy
     
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  6. d fleming

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    Not enough info. What is the surface vinyl is being removed from?
     
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  7. unclebun

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    You could try Vinyl-Off, which is sprayed on top of the vinyl and softens it and the adhesive.
     
  8. jsmoritz2000

    jsmoritz2000 Very Active Member

    People are so vague with their questions but seem to expect their peers to magically provide answers. I'll never understand this. Details and photos are always extremely helpful.
     
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  9. Fine Designs

    Fine Designs New Member

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    Need more details. Is it cracking? What is the vinyl on? What part of the world are you in?
     
  10. GAC05

    GAC05 Major Contributor

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    Maybe borrow one of those tattoo removal laser tools.......
     
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  12. blacksmith

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    Get yourself an MBX tool. It works great removing old, cracked vinyl from vehicles, even at 35-40 degrees F. Strips the vinyl and most of the adhesive residue. A little Rapid Remove rand some shellac thinner does the rest. Does mot work on polycarbonate or acrylic. Most major sign suppliers sell them and the replacement eraser wheels.
     
  13. signshoppdx

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    It’s on glass windows. I’m in the Pacific Northwest and this has been the first cold of the season. It was around 55° for a high.
    I think the cold is a big part of it.
     
  14. JR's

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    Thank you Mr. Smith, this actually helps quite a bit.
    On glass I recommend a steamer. You can pick it up at the hardware store for around $150.
    Use the wide attachment. It's like 6" x 10" and that will heat up that area and then you can start to peel
    the vinyl off, while you're peeling move the steamer down a little bit and that will start to heat that area.
    Try to get it the right temperature and most of the glue will come off with the vinyl.
    Any remaining glue use rapid remover. Then clean the glass as you would clean glass. LOL that sounds funny.
     
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  15. JR's

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    This is the one you want to get.
    It seems to be higher-quality than the newer model. It's going for 80 bucks

    When you get to the job site plug that in first and then start to get everything ready it takes a couple minutes to start steaming.
     

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  16. rjssigns

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    This^^^^

    Steam works a treat. I bought the same steamer from Menard's and it was less than 50 bucks. I had a job like the OP's where the vinyl was welded to the glass. Steam took it and the glue right off.
     
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  17. d fleming

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    Down in the south we can just hit it with a 4" sheetrock knife and rapid remover.I like to use some rapid tac to help the blade slide too.
     
  18. signshoppdx

    signshoppdx New Member

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    Hey, we bought one of the steamers you suggested and it did the trick! Thank you SO MUCH for your help.
     
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  19. JBurton

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    I was just going to recommend a 4" scraper and elbow grease. I have always shy-ed(sp?) away from heat on glass in the cold, assuming I'd crack the biggest window on the job. Is this not a concern, or has this happened to any of you steamer folks?
     
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  20. Kerning

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    I worry about this too.
     
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