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Roland new launch VS640 !!!

Discussion in 'Roland' started by kustom.printing, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. kustom.printing

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    http://www.rolanddga.com/products/printcut/versaVs/

    What do you guys think to the New Roland VS640, how would you market this to your customers as I am new to the metallic and from what I can see you have always been able to print onto printable metallic material.

    For example stickers how would this be marketed ??

    Also can metallic be printed onto a gloss banner material ??
     
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  2. J Hill Designs

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    IDK but I heard it has low durability (1-2 years)
     
  3. ProWraps

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    roland lists it as 1-3 years durability for metallic eco-sol inks.
     
  4. bigben

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    I have some demos of the silver ink. If you print on any coated material, the metallic ink will fade/take of when you pass your finger on it. So everything need to be laminated. Plus it cost around 1$/sf just for the ink. Plus if you don't use it in one month, 68$ of ink will go in the waste via cleaning cycle.

    So if you plan to use silver ink every day and will laminate every things, go for it!
     
  5. Rickey J

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    I think its going to be a great machine. It retails for around $26,000 and I find that to be a good price considering all that you can do with it. It prints up to 64" wide, t can be set up for 3 different printing options. I am also told that it only uses 2 print head for all 8 channels now I am not sure what replacement cost will be but that is 2 less head than a VP printer plus if you use the dual C,M,Y,K Set-up it has awsome print speed. So for the versatility in how you can set up the machine I find it to be a good printer for the money.
     
  6. kustom.printing

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    How hard would it be to re-convert it back to white + metallic if you went first for the double up of CMYK (CMYK + CMYK).

    Thanks Shaun
     
  7. ProColorGraphics

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    It actually only has one head. I have been working with my dealer on one for myself.
     
  8. kustom.printing

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    Do you think there is a market for the metallic ink.

    I am upgrading my VP to either a XC 540 with white or a VS640.
     
  9. miltondavis

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    large runs on this setting would require a lot of patience!
    CMYKMt > White 1440 x 720 4 sqft/hr (0.4 sq m)
     
  10. jasonx

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    I guess that's the advantage of the XC540MT over the VS640 the speed in these modes.
     
  11. kustom.printing

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    Do you have the xc540mt jason.

    If so do you find there is a market ??

    Also people are saying these are bad unlaminated.
     
  12. jasonx

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    I don't have a XC540MT. I have a XC540W at the moment. Looking at upgrading to the metallic model. We do a fair bit of white ink work but it is pretty slow even on our machine. I wouldn't want to be doing it any slower then I already am.
     
  13. kustom.printing

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    Will there be a lot of waste if you only used it for the colour until the white and metallic picked up.
     
  14. jasonx

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    You'll have some waste. The new printers have recirculating systems. Roland have quoted me an 80% saving on the ink wastage in the maintenance procedures on these new machines. For our business the savings in ink should make it very suitable. The metallic will just be an added bonus.
     
  15. SE SignSupply

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    The ink mode can't be changed once it has been selected on the 1st bootup.
     
  16. kustom.printing

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    Which would you guys choose is the XC540MT an out of date VS640 with it having the new print head and the 6 colours CMYKLMLC+ White + metallic compared to the XC540MT CMYK + White + Metallic.

    Also is the VP540 quicker in CMYK than the VS with the option CMYKLMLC + White + metallic but only using CMYKLMLC.
     
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  17. kustom.printing

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    I have noticed with the Roland VS640 that the metallic even after 3 days is easy to smudge is this the same on all printers ??
     
  18. bigben

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    yes...
     
  19. dmayhew26

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    So what are some of the thoughts of anyone that has been using this machine now for a few weeks or more? I am going with the White and Metallic and just wanted to know if the print speeds are really that slow? I have an SP540 now so any comparisons would be great. Thanks.
     
  20. kustom.printing

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    For a start what put me off is the fact everything needs laminating.
     
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