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S80600 w/Onyx. How to print more white?

Discussion in 'Epson' started by Marshal, Sep 14, 2018.

  1. Marshal

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    I've been trying to figure out how to get my epson S80600 to put down more white under my colors. I'm printing on ij180mc-114, and I've tried everything I can think of to get it to put enough white down so the blue I'm printing on top doesn't change colors when the material is applied to a colored surface (metallic gold paint in this case).

    I'm using the profiles downloaded from epson/3M, printing 720x1440 16 pass, and in the printer settings box I've got it at 32 wh - 2L (the only option), with the ink density turned up to 400%.

    Is there anything else I can do to add more white underprint to block out the underlying color and keep my colors on top from shifting?
     
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  2. Chasez

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    You could try multi-strike on the white but I would allow for dry time on each pass. If you try to lay down too much white it will start to crack, pool, and or run.

    Chaz
     
  3. Marshal

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    How can I multi strike only the white?
     
  4. Marshal

    Marshal Member

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    I suppose I should have clarified that response. Multi strike in the settings on the printer hits every color that number of times, correct? How can I just have it do the white extra times so the color doesn't shift?
     
  5. ColorCrest

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    Have you visited this video from Onyx, "Tech Tip: White and Specialty Ink Tools"?

     
  6. Marshal

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    I hadn't, no. Going through those settings still doesn't give me enough white to keep the color of the part from shifting the print.
     
  7. ColorCrest

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    What does your basic Onyx control image look like printed on any material? At least one ONYX Quality Evaluation.pdf should be found in your Onyx folder(s.) That's a good place to start. Can you upload a photo of the result?

    I'm guessing you're overlooking a basic setting, such as Spot Colors ON, etc.
     
  8. Marshal

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    It's definitely printing white. Just not as much as I need. I'm sure it's possible the printer+software combo can't put down that much white the way I need it to. I'm basically getting 2 layers of white (I think), when I need about 4. On our rolands I would have set it to print white, let it dry, and then suck it back in and print again, but I don't believe that's an option on the epson.
     

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  9. ColorCrest

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    Have you visited this video from Onyx, "Application Tools: Using the ONYX Spot Layer tools for white and specialty inks"?



    Your machine will lay down all the white you're looking for in a single pass. The ink should practically dry at the platen and only cure at the next heater. Your setting of 400% ink limit is telling, and incorrect.

    Be sure to tackle your workflow and settings critically. You might consider trouble shooting with your dealer or Onyx.

    Good luck
     
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