John I am not a troll! Just because you don't like the truth it isn't my fault. I have helped many on this forum. Now if you do not like what post that is your problem, so why don't you just quite calling me out? Maybe if you would not ask so many questions about thing you should have or maybe do have figured out I wouldn't post on your posts. I have never said that Signvox isn't worth what they charge, all I have said if it is the cats a$$ as you have posted many times, you would be asking pricing checks as often as you do. I would think that after being on this forum as long as you have been you would know how long it takes you to do something and also know what you need to charge for an hourly rate! If you research my threads you will see that I did not have to have people tell me how to figure out my hourly rate then constantly ask if me pricing is good. I learned and followed what was told to me.