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Suggestions Solvent to Latex

Discussion in 'Product and Supplier Referrals' started by david webb, Mar 31, 2019.

has anyone changed from solvet to latex and had regrets

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  1. david webb

    david webb New Member

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    solvent to latex issues
     
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  2. Christian @ 2CT Media

    Christian @ 2CT Media Major Contributor

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    Converted 10 years ago and wouldn't go back from having latex. We would add Solvent and actual plan on it soon for its abilities beyond latex.
     
  3. david webb

    david webb New Member

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    So i would be crazy to go latex i think the
    new technology for solvent is much better, do you agree
     
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  5. ddarlak

    ddarlak Trump Hater

    switched to latex about 8 years ago, I would rather have rusty nails driven up my fingernails on a daily basis rather than go back to solvent.
     
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  6. MikePro

    MikePro Major Contributor

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    Ran solvent for 10years, been on latex now nearly as much.... can't say I'd ever go back but i'd be interested to hear how solvent prints have improved
     
  7. Christian @ 2CT Media

    Christian @ 2CT Media Major Contributor

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    Absolutely not. I think Latex is best for general purpose, solvent is great for super bright colors and specialty printing like white and silver metallic.
     
  8. jpescobar

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    Solvent and Latex are like diesel and electric engines, they are different and they don't have the same technology. Most people and printer shops use solvent printers like Windows system on PCs. HP has no doubt the most diversified printing branch (DesignJet, Latex, Scitex, Indigo, PageWide) but it struggles to compete with big brands like Epson, Mimaki, Konica Minolta, Ricoh, Agfa, Vutek...). I don't say HP has bad products, personnaly I owned only HP PCs for nearly 17 years but when it comes to printers I prefer brands like Epson and Konica Minolta. I own 5 machines and I'm happy with the reliability, the versatility and the print quality.
     
  9. BigfishDM

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    For wide-format, HP is the #1,2, and 4 printer in the ENTIRE industry. Epson, Roland, and Mutoh COMBINED make up #3. HP does the best job against those brands FYI.
     
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  10. unclebun

    unclebun Very Active Member

    The improvement isn't so much in the prints, though they are sharper/clearer/brighter than 10 years ago, but in the solvents. 10 years ago you couldn't stand to be in the same room with the printer more than 5 minutes. Now it's no problem. Also the ink dries much faster now.

    Most of my competitors in town have latex, and when I get a customer who has used one of them in the past, they typically are amazed at the quality of the prints compared to what they used to get.
     
  11. jpescobar

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    This ranking is based on which report? If you argue that HP is better than Roland and Mutoh we can agree but better than Epson especially the SureColor Series I do not think so. I understand and I respect the fact you're a HP Latex reseller (If I'm not wrong) but I talked with many HP resellers and they all agree that Epson is the best eco-solvent printer on the market.
     
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  12. StarSign

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    We went from solvent to latex and then back to solvent. I know it's apples to oranges to some degree however I am very pleased that we went sent latex packing.
     
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  13. BigfishDM

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    Just based of unit placements that's all. I do agree that the Epson Color gamut is better also. I think in most cases the Latex ink gamut is totally fine though.
     
  14. Modern Ink Signs

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    I switch to latex about 6 months ago. I do not regret it at all.

    - We get great color
    - Production times went down

    Very glad we made the switch!
     
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  15. Bobby H

    Bobby H Very Active Member

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    We used to do solvent (or "eco-solvent) printing. Four years ago we bought a big HP latex printer and then two years ago set up a second one alongside it. When the second printer arrived we retired our old VersaCAMM. Both printers stay pretty busy. To add another variable, we recently purchased/installed a new UV flatbed printer. That's going to be a big help on a variety of other kinds of jobs.

    The change in printers has been positive for the most part. No more waiting for hours or more to allow prints to out-gas before laminating them.
     
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  16. ikarasu

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    Each have their benefits. The latex fanbois will swear by latex... The solvent will swear by solvent.

    Ive ran all three. I love the latex the best... But that doesn't mean it's better than solvent. For every up it has, it has a down.

    One is not better than the other... They're just Different.
     
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  17. rjssigns

    rjssigns Major Contributor

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    This^^^^

    My new solvent printer will be here in a couple weeks. Why solvent? Because I use the same advice I give to people wanting to buy a printer. Buy local, even if it costs more. Dealer is within 30 minutes of my shop. When a printer breaks,and they all do, I want someone on site within hours not days.
     
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  18. BUCKY

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    What was the issues with the latex that you didn't like?
     
  19. AF

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    No printer is perfect, you may get a dud and not every situation will work with one specific type of printer.

    There are people overwhelmingly happy with every printer tech and people who won’t touch certain printers ever again.
     
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  20. StarSign

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    It felt like we had to babysit the HP a lot, startup time, power needs made it harder to reconfigure area. They are good machines and have a place however, after having 2 it was time for a change. We still have our 210 but we won't turn it on. It's not worth keeping all of the supplies in stock.
     
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