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Question Something about the Riot makes no sense to me

Discussion in 'General Chit-Chat' started by netsol, Jan 9, 2021.

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  1. unclebun

    unclebun Very Active Member

    Personally, I think they should make it such that in order to keep their section 230 exemption, no social media can have any government official or agency and no political candidate posting on their medium, and make the same prohibition for any government official or agency or political candidate. And also that no news media can write a story when the only source is social media.
     
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  2. Snydo

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    Couldn't agree more with that statement. Anyone with an hour to kill this weekend should check out the documentary "The Social Dilemma" on Netflix, it interviews the people that created most of the current social media structure and they are sounding alarms about how damaging it has been to society.
     
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    Wasnt the guy who walked through the door and let people in, a different incedent in oregon or something?

    anyways... I think 99% of the people there were their protesting. A few people were there for violence... And then a few got caught up in the moment. The guy who smashed a cop in the head and killed him? He didnt get caught up in the moment. The people smashing windows and trying to get into congress when it was in session? those people were idiots, and the cops had reason to fear them. The people who took advantage of the situation and strolled into the capital? I think they didn't make the smartest choice... but they're not "terrorists"... just people caught up in a bad decision who didn't make the smartest choice. Sadly most of their lives are likely ruined over it. Lots of people who got identified got fired, lots are in jail... Intent to due harm or damage or not... breaking into a government building thats supposed to be secured is one of the dumbest things you can do.


    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/07/us/capitol-mob-deaths/index.html I know you guys love CNN... but this is the first link that came up, and I'm too lazy to find another!
    It posts a little snippet about a few of the deaths and people who died. Everyone that died... They seem like normal people. Their families said while they are huge trump supporters, what they were doing when they died was out of their character. And thats why it's so sad...

    What do you do? A slap on the wrist? Then it opens the doors for this to constantly happen. Despite the intentions... what happened is a big deal, and something needs to happen to ensure it doesn't happen again.

    I think those who were smashing windows and forcing their way in need serious consequences. Those who just strolled in and were part of the crowd... they need a bit more than a slap on their wrist, but their lives shouldnt be over because of a mistake they made in the heat of the moment.
     
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  4. WildWestDesigns

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    So you get your information from one source and that's it? Again, that doesn't do well for a middle ground. And bare in mind, CNN is the source for the infamous "Fiery, but mostly peaceful protest" as a building was burning in the background (which was actually quite common place throughout those protests throughout the year and still happened despite not being reported on due to the bad optics).
     
  5. WildWestDesigns

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    While I agree with that, I doubt it would happen. To many ways for it to be used to keep people in power. Media of all types can be used for propaganda and if it all becomes an echo chamber, that's a very bad, bad thing. That's why anyone that believe in any type of censorship is a good thing, is on a very, very dangerous road. No matter the good intentions (you know what they say about good intentions don't you?)
     
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  6. netsol

    netsol Very Active Member

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    they didn't understand what they were starting. if they were anti-trump protesters, we would hear they were following their conscience, the police would be charged & they would be naming high schools and post offices after the protesters.

    it sure sounds to me like EVERYONE can be charged with felony murder
     
  7. ikarasu

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    CNN is painting the protesters that died in a good light...news I've heard from multiple sources. It's just the first google result I saw, so it's the one I posted.
     
  8. Fred Weiss

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    There is a saying.jpg
     
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  9. netsol

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    fred,
    it is frightening the power we have given to sergey brin, jackdorsey and that horrid little sh*t zuckerberg. it makes you realize how restrained william rsndolph hearst was, 100 years earlier.

    230 repeal is desperately needed, but i doubt it will come

    i would love to see the vast majority of trump's 78,000,000 voters cancel their facebook accounts. (we really need to hit back, in a non violent way, THAT REALLY HURTS)

    it has been said, (hard to tell truth from yet another wild conspiracy theory) that bill gates has a microchipping technology he wants/wanted to be inserted into the vaccines to track who has been vaccinated, and exposure going forward. the practical problems in a rapid worldwide vaccination effort would provide a data gathering opportunity that would make facebook, apple, google and the others seem like pikers
     
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  10. Fred Weiss

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    From what I know of Bill Gates, I find it doubtful that at this point in his life he has any need to expand his wealth or power. He seems to have a high interest in third world countries and helping them with medical solutions. Taking that, along with the conspiracy theory you put forward, it wouldn't surprise me if there is a kernel of truth to it that would be intended to help third world nations better deal with the covid pandemic.

    I would be concerned about any sort of government action to reign in social media through legislation. What is needed IMHO, is a campaign similar to what we've seen with anti-smoking that would educate the public at every opportunity so as to either bring pressure on these companies to properly clean up their acts or to dissuade individuals from partaking in their offerings.
     
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  11. netsol

    netsol Very Active Member

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    yes fred, the only thing worse than watching the likes of zuckerberg, sergey brin & jack dorsey running around unfettered is to let nancy pelosi & chuck shumer "deliberate" and come up with a solution.

    remember in simpler times, when you didn't have so clear a picture of what "the inmates are running the asylum" meant?
     
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  12. Gene@mpls

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    remember in simpler times, when you didn't have so clear a picture of what "the inmates are running the asylum" meant?

    I assume you mean Nancy and Chuck as the inmates? I thought that Trump was running this particular asylum?

    The violence in most cases [on both sides] can be laid at the door of the White Nationalists and Quasi-fascists IMHO. They are promoting a new civil war and are the dudes in body armor and with AR15s strapped across there [often] ample stomachs. DC had the sense to not allow open carry or we would have seen a real S--t storm.
     
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  13. netsol

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    when you say they don't allow open carry, i take it you have never experienced a visit to the crown jewel of our country
    quite the crime rate, a history of a previous mayor smoking crack, it's a gem...
     
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  15. Notarealsignguy

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    Oh boy, thirsty Sunday?
     
  16. Notarealsignguy

    Notarealsignguy Very Active Member

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    I think that if you have ever been to DC, especially SE, we could debate the rationale
     
  17. Val47

    Val47 Boudica@Nite

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    Nah, just scrolling through the thread and that's what I felt like saying :)
    felt appropriate.
     
  18. Notarealsignguy

    Notarealsignguy Very Active Member

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    Then I counter with this
     
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  20. netsol

    netsol Very Active Member

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    Mark Twain "history doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes"
     
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