It's sad that some of us can't distinguish between direct and hurtful...
...Most people hear are not mean-spirited. There are some. And some lack a bit of tact, yes. Their phrasing suffers.
...Society in general seems to be getting overly sensitive....
I can stand up and be counted here... I lack a bit of tact at times & I'm sure I have been perceived as hurtful (well, ok, I probably even intended to be perceived that way at times) ..but I can also claim to think I am not mean spirited...
...I can also admit that many of my posts over the years have been inappropriate in terms of mean spirited appearances, which as Fred and Stacey point out... does NO good whatsoever, AND harms the sites reputation..
..so, I guess i wanted to defend Zeth a bit, because he is no further out of line then he has seen so many of us become at times... and I always like to refer to "Lord of the flies" when these sort of topics arise, because there is a mob mentality that unfortunately is evident in human nature & often seems to be the path of least resistance, unless we are compelled to take the high road...
...so, I give Fred a lot of credit for allowing this forum to see such successful levels of growth over the years, built partly upon his light handed approach to enforcement... BUT, I also want to pay attention when he draws the line in the sand & notifies us that enough is enough... if we want to enjoy the freedoms from over zealous censorship, we have to police ourselves a little more. I realize that statement needs to be said TO me, before I have much right to say it to others... so I'm just saying that I will try to work on that, so I don't help Zeth and others get the wrong idea of acceptable behavior. (I thought one, well placed "grow a set" was ok... but it could have been left alone after that...
...and the CM comments are never appropriate, because besides being a voluntary contribution... many people contribute knowledge that is more valuable than money... and which brings the other CM's (and indirectly MM's) and their money to this site... so let's not dis the general members. (also, you will see ocassions where a general member may have paid dues for years running... as well as contributing a vast amount of knowledge... but if they let their subscription lapse... they don't need some FNG with a $50 investment (or a $7 one) talkin' smack about him