What do you tell the guy that wants "car graphix"

[skyhigh]

Not busting your chops JR. I simply think you missed a couple main points of the OP's post.

"I have a lot of complicated stuff I need done, and my dad said you do a good job and are a great price".

Translation...... My buddy drew up these cool graphics on his napkin in the cafeteria, and I want you to reproduce it on my car. NO, I'm not interested in that stock stuff from a catalog. I want THIS, and I want it for a couple bucks!!!!

I usually tell them that we specialize in business to business advertizing, not graphix and I'm not set up for it.

Yep, I'm using that next time.

ps.

OK, Add 250 intallers x 10 car graphics per month x minium 150 Euro per car x 20 days each month x 11 months!

Auto dealers....custom car shows....ect. NOT to 17 year olds with complicated stuff for cheap.

 

[JR-Folientechnik]

Thanks, for the translations...

 

[genericname]

So millions in Euros that is what, maybe $100,000 once you factor in inflation? Not shabby but, not kiss my a$$ money either.

Um... the Euro is roughly on par with the Greenback.

 

[Haakon]

So millions in Euros that is what, maybe $100,000 once you factor in inflation? Not shabby but, not kiss my a$$ money either.

1 million Euro is 1,3 million US $. You need to get your decimals right.

Do you even know what inflation is? It has nothing to do with currency exchange.

 

[JR-Folientechnik]

1 million Euro is 1,3 million US $. You need to get your decimals right.

Do you even know what inflation is? It has nothing to do with currency exchange.

Thank you... I will be flying to Oslo, sometime this year, maybe we can meet. JR

 

[BIG EASY DOES IT]

We always way over bid a job like this in hopes that we won't get it. And if by chance they say ok... we bid the job so high that the profit margin makes sense.

 

[WCSign]

So millions in Euros that is what, maybe $100,000 once you factor in inflation? Not shabby but, not kiss my a$$ money either.

??? LOL

1 million Euro is 1,3 million US $. You need to get your decimals right.

Do you even know what inflation is? It has nothing to do with currency exchange.

 

[john1]

I really don't get the issue with jobs like this, It's no different than any other to me anyway. Just quote it off what the client has said, If you get it your good, If not oh well. Can't win them all.

I recently heard a shop locally wanted $100 per side to vinyl pinstripe a car. We are talking from front to back, along the body line on both sides....car dealer style. Simple 1/4" and 1/8" stripes on each side. Sounds to me like they didn't want that job either and makes them look like asses IMO.

 

[JR-Folientechnik]

I really don't get the issue with jobs like this, It's no different than any other to me anyway. Just quote it off what the client has said, If you get it your good, If not oh well. Can't win them all.

I recently heard a shop locally wanted $100 per side to vinyl pinstripe a car. We are talking from front to back, along the body line on both sides....car dealer style. Simple 1/4" and 1/8" stripes on each side. Sounds to me like they didn't want that job either and makes them look like asses IMO.

We had months were we did over a 100 of these jobs as special model editions for dealers. Forum Tip of the Day!

 

[TyrantDesigner]

I really don't get the issue with jobs like this, It's no different than any other to me anyway. Just quote it off what the client has said, If you get it your good, If not oh well. Can't win them all.

I recently heard a shop locally wanted $100 per side to vinyl pinstripe a car. We are talking from front to back, along the body line on both sides....car dealer style. Simple 1/4" and 1/8" stripes on each side. Sounds to me like they didn't want that job either and makes them look like asses IMO.

hmm, so 200 bucks to pinstripe a car ... yeah ... little excessive, doesn't factor if they are set up for a job queue or not ... if they are that could be rush job pricing. also you have to consider that they might actually think they need to cut 12 feet of continuous pin stripe at that width when they could cut it to the longest panel. I can easily get that job to about $200 no problem. as it is ... my 'pinstriping' cost starts at $110 and goes up to $175 depending on complexity and time required. pretty standard to see $200 and up in this area.

 

[Locals Find!]

1 million Euro is 1,3 million US $. You need to get your decimals right.

Do you even know what inflation is? It has nothing to do with currency exchange.

Not directly no. However, we are not talking exchange only but value. Just because I can trade in $1 for $0.75 in euros doesn't mean that I can buy just as much with the Euro as I can with the dollar.

In my area the average price for a home is $100,000 in Germany that same home would sell for over $2,000,000 euros. Huge difference. So yes inflation does play a role when trying to compare currencies.

I could go on but, it wouldn't be worth wasting the sunshine.

 

[Mosh]

If I think a customer is going to be a PITA I just start acting crazy and saying weird things, they usually don't come back.

 

[Haakon]

Not directly no. However, we are not talking exchange only but value. Just because I can trade in $1 for $0.75 in euros doesn't mean that I can buy just as much with the Euro as I can with the dollar.

In my area the average price for a home is $100,000 in Germany that same home would sell for over $2,000,000 euros. Huge difference. So yes inflation does play a role when trying to compare currencies.

I could go on but, it wouldn't be worth wasting the sunshine.

No, please go on.. Because what you are saying in reality with that statement is that

A: property in your community has really poor vaiue compared to Europe and
B: JR could take his €2.000.000, exchange them for $2.600.000 and buy 26 homes in your community with the same money as you claim 1 home in Germany of the same standard costs (which presumably you have no facts to back right?)

Also, inflation and property value is not the same, properly value fluctuates independenty of inflation which is a economical term that shows rise in prices of goods and services in a set (national) economy over a period of time. Usually between 2-5 percent annually in western world countries with a stable economy. This is why you should raise your prices 5% annually to keep up with inflation, you do not adjust your prices according to properly value in your community.

You would be onto something if you ONLY could buy property and nothing else with your earnings, but that is off course not the case.

When for example vinyl and plotters, printers, computers etc cost just about the same in Europe as in the US, 2 million euro WILL have the same buying power as 2,6 million dollars, not $100.000.

 

[Mosh]

What-ever, you are still stuck in EUROPE! USA! USA! USA! USA!

 

[cdiesel]

I really don't get the issue with jobs like this, It's no different than any other to me anyway. Just quote it off what the client has said, If you get it your good, If not oh well. Can't win them all.

I recently heard a shop locally wanted $100 per side to vinyl pinstripe a car. We are talking from front to back, along the body line on both sides....car dealer style. Simple 1/4" and 1/8" stripes on each side. Sounds to me like they didn't want that job either and makes them look like asses IMO.

I wouldn't do it for that, cause we'd lose money on the job. We're not setup for it. On the other hand, the pinstriper guy that'll do the car for $15 can't turn out what we can.

 

[john1]

I wouldn't do it for that, cause we'd lose money on the job. We're not setup for it. On the other hand, the pinstriper guy that'll do the car for $15 can't turn out what we can.

No offense but to pinstripe a car with vinyl on the roll pinstripe tape at $200 you are not losing money at all. I don't care what your overhead is, $200 for the car is PLENTY. 1/2 hr of work, 1 hour tops of you want to count ordering the stripe tape.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to pinstripe a car with vinyl stripe tape...

 

[cdiesel]

If I don't have the pinstripe roll here, I have to spend 1/2 hour with the customer picking out a color. I have to order the roll.. there goes another 1/2 hour. The guy's gonna come back in a week when we get the roll.. there goes another hour between receiving the vehicle, striping the car, taking payment, etc. I'm into it for two hours minimum and $20 in materials (including shipping). Not worth it to me.

Could we do it? Absolutely. Could I make money? Maybe. But, if I have to take time away from much larger, more profitable jobs to make $50 I'll ultimately lose money in the end. Trust me.

 

[96XP]

:ROFLMAO:RE: if i think a customer is going to be a pita i just start acting crazy and saying weird things, they usually don't come back.:ROFLMAO:

 

[JR-Folientechnik]

Not directly no. However, we are not talking exchange only but value. Just because I can trade in $1 for $0.75 in euros doesn't mean that I can buy just as much with the Euro as I can with the dollar.

In my area the average price for a home is $100,000 in Germany that same home would sell for over $2,000,000 euros. Huge difference. So yes inflation does play a role when trying to compare currencies.

I could go on but, it wouldn't be worth wasting the sunshine.

Sorry, I don't want to step on toes, but I just sold a house in Dec 2011 here in Germany for 200,000 Euro. How much would that be in dollars?

 

[JR-Folientechnik]

If I don't have the pinstripe roll here, I have to spend 1/2 hour with the customer picking out a color. I have to order the roll.. there goes another 1/2 hour. The guy's gonna come back in a week when we get the roll.. there goes another hour between receiving the vehicle, striping the car, taking payment, etc. I'm into it for two hours minimum and $20 in materials (including shipping). Not worth it to me.

Could we do it? Absolutely. Could I make money? Maybe. But, if I have to take time away from much larger, more profitable jobs to make $50 I'll ultimately lose money in the end. Trust me.