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  1. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Reveal1 I would like to let you know that I am grateful for your thoughtful response to my thread. I appreciate the concept of "be natural." Doing something like asking a gentle mindful question, for someone not accustomed to it, could be a challenging experience. If I was teaming up with an...

  3. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Gino, I think you have a good grasp of what I want to accomplish here on s101. I would like to ask about the "search button." If you were in my shoes, what phrase would you search for? Robert Armerding

  4. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Gino, I have asked why we don't have several short tutorials about how to best use s101. Do think that might make any difference? Maybe? What phrase do you suggest that I use in the search bar? Robert Armerding

  5. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Notarealsignguy, Two items: First: "you had better make sure you REALLY know what you are doing and talking about." That is at the core of what I want to accomplish here on s101. I want to team up with members to bring them to that level. Second: I have learned from many conversations with sign...

  6. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Texas_Signmaker, Please go back and look at my response when you posted that. From my own perspective, the way Jester1167 entered the discussion has been helpful in my struggle to find a way to effectively reach out to the s101 crowd. For me, there is a difference between someone trying to tear...

  7. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Jester1167 What if I where to ask you, "Jester, what do you think I am trying to accomplish here on s101?" If you would rather not answer my question, no problem. Robert Armerding

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    artbykrigga, Welcome! Robert Armerding

  9. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Jester11667, This is exactly the kind of feedback I have been hoping for all day. You are a breath of fresh air and I appreciate it. Your "What are you trying to accomplish with this sign?" is a wonderful improvement. Certainly, there may be very limited times when it is an appropriate question...

  10. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Notarealsignguy, Your phrase, "some small business owners that are interested in getting better at managing their business" is my exact target audience. I have yet to find anyone who can tell me how to reach them. Maybe you know. I do know that many of them are right here on s101. I have had...

  11. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    iPrintStuff, If that is how you want to take it. I respect your right to see it that way. On the other hand, I also have a right to post what is important to me. My intent is to reach out to sign makers who understand that they have room to improve. If that does not include you. Then just don't...

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    Texas_Signmaker, You are free to call it a "stupid question" if you want. You have a right to your opinion. And, I respect that. At the same time, I, as a "Merchant Member" am totally free to promote myself in anyway that I want. If you do not like what I am doing, I have no problem with you...

  13. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    ColoPrinthead, Thank you for your openness. I suppose that someone could say that my intended work here on s101 is "troubleshooting." What do I mean? A large number of observers of our sign making industry have plainly told me that there is a tremendous need for sign makers to improve their...

  14. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Gino, Great suggestion. Thank you. I did post my very first thread there and I thought I had inadvertently made a gigantic mistake. I will try it again soon. The core of the problem: How to get sign makers to see that they need to improve their management skills when they see no need. Yet in...

  15. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Notarealsignguy, From my perspective, this conversation has turned south. I will drop out if it keeps going this way. Robert Armeridng

  16. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    ColoPrinthead, Interesting observation. I wonder. When you see your finish product, do you sense any kind of reasonable pride? Robert Armerding

  17. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Texas_Signmaker, "I politely refer them somewhere else" that sounds like an appropriate response. Check it. My own observation. When a sign maker sees his finished sign, maybe even years after he crafted it, he still feels reasonable pride in his job well done. Maybe you don't feel that way. Or...

  18. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Gino, As you see the s101 crowd, I think i have it straight, that you are aware there is plenty of room for improvement in their business management skills. Do I see that correctly, or am I off base? Robert Armerding

  19. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    ColoPrinthead, I would imagine you have also heard, "I want it yesterday." I wonder, in general, how many of those "immediate" jobs become do overs? Robert Armerding

  20. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Texas_Signmaker You say, "in store visits require immediate attention." Let's say this only happens once a month, or less. And then they are someone you have never met. In the very early moments of your conversation with them, you sense that the project is extremely important and you sense that...

  21. When a potential client begins to introduce a new project.

    Notarealsignguy, Thank you for explaining your own situation. Do you think that everyone here on s101 is in the exact same situation? Robert Armerding
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