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The shop was contracted to repair a bank sign that was damaged in a storm.
The sign itself is a 40+ year old back light illuminated 2 face, with cut acrylic lettering, temperature kept by a dial, and an analog clock on each side.
While we fixing letting on the face, the bank also wanted the clock & back light portion to also be fixed as they have been no working for awhile.
Since this is a small shop no one has an electricians licence to work on electricity on signs. we subcontracted a local electrician to do the actual electrical work, which was reported on the invoice they already submitted repairing the following;
1 SPST Time Clock 120V
6 H.O. T12 8ft Lamp
20 #12 THHN Black
20 #12 THHN Red Solid CU
20 #12 THHN White Solid CU
1 120Volt Clock Motor
Yesterday when the boss went by the bank to follow up making sure the bank was happy with the service a big bomb was dropped,
the lights don't work on the top and bottom row of lights, then the bank asked when the clocks would be fixed, needless to say the boss was standing there slack jawed.
Story I got he walked to parking lot called the electrician and was told that EVERYTHING was fixed before they left, but they knew the top and bottom row of lights were questionable and doesn't surprise him that they don't work but they would come back and do more "trouble shooting". at their standard rate
so as the boss was standing by the sign he heard a "ticking" noise and knew that the time clock was turning on and it took longer than expected to get the lights up to full brightness, while he was watching the sign he noticed the arms on the clocks started to "twitching" finally the sign reached full illumination, and that is when the clocks started working correctly.
Another call to the electrician and the electrician I was told was speechless, and would be coming ASAP to fix the clocks.
When the boss got back to the shop, everyone saw it was an IDEAL time to find another room to be in.
What he kept asking how could an electrician, or anyone, could leave a job site knowing that there were questionable components and still wrote the job off as being completed. then to know that the electrician hooked the clocks up to the time clock instead of the direct power, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE BY ANY REPUTABLE SERVICE PROVIDER.
Now that the story is told, does anyone know the process for becoming licensed and/or process to work on electric signs in TX, to where electrical signs can be worked on without having a master electrician on site?
I understand the concept that electricians have to have X number of hours to be a master electrician, which is when you can do the work without supervision.
what my specific question is, does the same number of hours and time that is required to be a master electrician also to same for a sign licence since they are different licences.
The sign itself is a 40+ year old back light illuminated 2 face, with cut acrylic lettering, temperature kept by a dial, and an analog clock on each side.
While we fixing letting on the face, the bank also wanted the clock & back light portion to also be fixed as they have been no working for awhile.
Since this is a small shop no one has an electricians licence to work on electricity on signs. we subcontracted a local electrician to do the actual electrical work, which was reported on the invoice they already submitted repairing the following;
1 SPST Time Clock 120V
6 H.O. T12 8ft Lamp
20 #12 THHN Black
20 #12 THHN Red Solid CU
20 #12 THHN White Solid CU
1 120Volt Clock Motor
Yesterday when the boss went by the bank to follow up making sure the bank was happy with the service a big bomb was dropped,
the lights don't work on the top and bottom row of lights, then the bank asked when the clocks would be fixed, needless to say the boss was standing there slack jawed.
Story I got he walked to parking lot called the electrician and was told that EVERYTHING was fixed before they left, but they knew the top and bottom row of lights were questionable and doesn't surprise him that they don't work but they would come back and do more "trouble shooting". at their standard rate
so as the boss was standing by the sign he heard a "ticking" noise and knew that the time clock was turning on and it took longer than expected to get the lights up to full brightness, while he was watching the sign he noticed the arms on the clocks started to "twitching" finally the sign reached full illumination, and that is when the clocks started working correctly.
Another call to the electrician and the electrician I was told was speechless, and would be coming ASAP to fix the clocks.
When the boss got back to the shop, everyone saw it was an IDEAL time to find another room to be in.
What he kept asking how could an electrician, or anyone, could leave a job site knowing that there were questionable components and still wrote the job off as being completed. then to know that the electrician hooked the clocks up to the time clock instead of the direct power, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE BY ANY REPUTABLE SERVICE PROVIDER.
Now that the story is told, does anyone know the process for becoming licensed and/or process to work on electric signs in TX, to where electrical signs can be worked on without having a master electrician on site?
I understand the concept that electricians have to have X number of hours to be a master electrician, which is when you can do the work without supervision.
what my specific question is, does the same number of hours and time that is required to be a master electrician also to same for a sign licence since they are different licences.
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