Have ya gotten the feeling, that making signs anymore has nothing to do with really making signs, anymore ?? In other words, for the younger people, it might not make sense and looked at as old farts just griping...... but it's not, not really. Years ago, you hadda make thumbnail sketches, pitch your drawing, then make it. Literally make it by hand. If your sign was gonna be an oval, you literally had to create an oval, by hand using tools and string and pencils and then hand cutting it. Rectangles, free-form shapes, the same way. You hadda first draw it, then cut it out. We didn't have computers to calculate sizes, shapes or patterns..... WE were the pattern makers. Afterwards, you needed to paint, stain, coat out or whatever to the panels and go from there to make a nice finish on your substrate. Most electric sign faces started out as clear, so not much ever came in ready-to-go. Then, we either transferred out drawings onto the substrate or made a neon pattern or welded a box together..... or mixed up the ink for screening a coupla hundred signs 2 or 3 colors. Nothing was ever done digitally. In fact, that words wasn't even invented, yet. It's a new generation and progress keeps moving forward, but it sure seems more like craft class than a sign shop to me. So, as the pattern makers slowly drop out-of-the-picture and die off..... ya might wanna think to yourself.... how would I make this, if I didn't have all these gadgets ??