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How to make this contemporary?

Discussion in 'Logo Design' started by ams, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. ams

    ams Very Active Member

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    I designed this logo for a customer (they wanted a simple kids like bell, it's ugly.) Overlapped black letters on the yellow, which was impossible to read so I added a white outline, etc.

    Well she says it's not what she wants, she wants it more "contemporary" and this is what she says.

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    We are trying to establish a brand so we are looking for something that can always be identified with us; and never loses its flare. Sort of like the "M" for McDonalds.

    I envisioned "Order Up" being very fat and curvy and popping out at you. Can you make it 3D? Maybe we could even make the O or the D the bell. I wonder if "Mobile Food Cart" would look better without the white trim. Could I see that in a few different cursive fonts? And, we didn't like the bell at the bottom.
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    Any ideas?

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  2. JTBoh

    JTBoh I sell signage and signage accessories.

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    Distressed font + outline looks horrible. IF you want to use that font, outline in black to fill any spots within the letters, weld, and then outline.

    Order up is a 70s/80s style font, imo
    Mobile Food Cart is a 40's/50's style script.
    Off-Center outlined like that feels like handlettered.
    I can see why she says she wants contemporary.

    Put the jesus fish on the bell, it looks like an afterthought. Better yet, design the fish into the bell as highlights, so it doesn't necessarily scare off customers.
    Stroke on bell doesn't match stroke on letters, but should.
    I'd forgo on the stacked lettering.
    Yellow on Red is still glaring.

    What I'd do -
    Design a round logo. Put bell at top, along and inside curve. About a 3rd of the height of the circle.
    Order up underneath, filling rest of circle.
    Mobile food cart in border, wrapped around bottom of circle.
    Some filler text on top, phone number, website, etc.
     
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  3. Marlene

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    WOW, that whole design looks like someone did it in Microsoft paint. Throw it all out and start over.
     
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  4. Marlene

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    Here is what others have done with Order Up.
     

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  5. ddarlak

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    I find it hard to believe you offer logo design, that is not logo design...
     
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  6. ams

    ams Very Active Member

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    I rarely offer it, because I am not great at it.
     
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  7. ams

    ams Very Active Member

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    Thank you for the helpful advice. The yellow/red they will not move away from, they are dead set on those colors.
     
  8. TimToad

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    What kind of initial questions were asked and what kind of preferences did the client express at that point?

    Is this an actual logo design project, or a layout for something else you'll be producing?

    Her most recent expressed desires and the use of the bell contradict each other. Maybe greasy spoon diners still use that kind of bell, but the heavy outline around it overpowers it and diminishes its appeal.

    The mish mosh of very dated and unattractive fonts along with the shape of the panel not having any context or added value to the overall design doesn't help either.

    When I imagine "order up" I think of an order ticket hanging from a clip on the expeditors counter at a restaurant and a salty looking, gruff line cook slapping a plate up on the counter. Not a "contemporary, mobile food cart.
     
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    If nothing else, lose the fish. No matter what your views are, it really does not belong in a logo.
     
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  10. shoresigns

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    I would pass on this job. It sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen.
     
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  11. TimToad

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    What if it the logo design is connected to a big trailer wrap project?

    I think if he can just get synced up with his client on her preferences and pull something more cohesive and contemporary together, it could save the entire project.
     
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  12. Marlene

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    Sub out the design of this. It sounds like design is not your thing so you'll waste more time trying and will scare off the client with bad design ideas.
     
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  13. HDvinyl

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    I think your customers are getting to you. The promises of customers will most likely stay promises.
     
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  14. ams

    ams Very Active Member

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    It's going to be a sign for their mobile cart but also as their logo.
     
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    Make a quick study of the McDonalds logo evolution and then the current Taco Bell art. Be reminded, logo design begins and ends in black and white.
     
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  16. shoresigns

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    I would still pass. Did you read the quote from the client? There's a red flag pretty much every three words. A highly experienced brand designer might be able to turn a client like that around, but even then I wouldn't bet on success.

     
  17. TimToad

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    To each his own. I read her message and am 100% certain I could come up with something that would fill the bill in under two hours time. She's just talking out loud about what she wants. It could be her first foray into business ownership and she's just talking herself up.

    I think her direction is actually pretty clear compared to many.

    A good designer should be able to knock that thing out of the park pretty easily.
     
  18. TimToad

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    No, I was using deductive reasoning. The OP stated it was a logo for a mobile food cart, so reasons stands that it could involve some trailer graphics, menus, business cards, flyers, etc.
     
  19. ams

    ams Very Active Member

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    She said that has to be a part of it, she doesn't want to get rid of it.
     
  20. HDvinyl

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    Jack Bauer smells like fish!(after 24 hours)
     
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