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Massive stencil needed, 25'x150' for roof top graphic

Discussion in 'Hand Made Signs' started by sinclairgraphics1, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Old Timer

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    Make a scale drawing, snap a top and bottom line. cut a 10' x letter stroke thickness of coroplast, line up and draw with chalk. use a nine inch roller and cut -in as best as you can. from the airplane it will look perfect!
     
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  2. JBurton

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    I think the critical part to keep in mind is that it will be viewed at however many thousand feet, during landing/takeoff. Crisp edges are less than critical. I myself would still go with some sort of physical pattern, but that's due to my inexperience with actual hand painted signs. I don't know if I'd pounce a pattern, as a properly pounced pattern will take a ton of time and a very large panel to electro-pounce it on(Don't do the perforations on a plotter, all the installers that have to use it hate you for that. The little fibers in the paper just bend back over the hole and the chalk/coal does not pass through them easily.) Then you have at best, 30 rolls to carry up, keep in order, roll out, tape down, pray the wind holds off, then line up the next one. Plus, with my luck, your helper misunderstands what to line up and the whole pattern has to be re-placed when you are done the first time. I would still shoot for a billboard face, but add a center line both directions so you could ideally place it in the center and unfold from that point, so you only ever have to drag half of the banner once its on the roof.
    Make sure to utilize any phallic shapes within the logo for maximum effect. With any luck, you'll have something incredibly inappropriate, and we can read about it when someone snaps a picture and it goes viral! Then you can back charge the customer for a guerilla marketing campaign...
     
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  3. GAC05

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    If you went with the mesh banner you could easily block out the letters well enough through the banner with something like this SLE-linemarkingfactory-about-us-3-768x1152.jpg
    Just need to square up the banner and make sure it is secured so it doesn't shift around - ratchet straps + some sand bags or the buckets of paint you will need to haul up there anyway.
     
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  4. Old Timer

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    could you hire a sign painter in your area that can lay it out for you? sure beats patterns or banners or any of that. I have done a few of these by chalking it out with great success
     
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  5. Johnny Best

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    Agree with old timer, this job is easy, no hanging off walls, a good layout to scale, couple boxes of chalk a 2" cut in brush and wham your done. Old Timer and myself will knock that sucker out in a morning. Did one to scale, 5 minutes. surfsup.jpg
     
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  6. sinclairgraphics1

    sinclairgraphics1 Sinclair Graphics & Installations

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    We could hire you to come out and do it. I see your quite a ways from me but could be a possibility.
     
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    Is Des Moines where the guy who painted American Gothic come from?
     
  8. sinclairgraphics1

    sinclairgraphics1 Sinclair Graphics & Installations

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    Yes sir!
     
  9. BillyP

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    Any real signwriter worth his salt would do it the old school way chalk, paint and a brush
     
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  10. ddarlak

    ddarlak Trump Hater

    i'm laughing at your entire post because it is silly to think you will get 10k for a pattern and even sillier to use a pattern. This will be done by someone who knows what their doing.
     
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  11. unclebun

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    How would you do the company logo without a pattern?
     
  12. Billct2

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    with a scaled sketch & grid
     
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  13. Johnny Best

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    If you can make the company logo big on a paper pattern then you can make it on the roof, no pouncing and messing with paper blowing all over the place, tape and a pounce bag. A good scaled sketch like mentioned and draw it out.
    And I do not see the humor in this post except for laughing all the way to the bank for laying it out. Nice work if you can get it.
     
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  14. sinclairgraphics1

    sinclairgraphics1 Sinclair Graphics & Installations

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    Everyone's got their opinions, that's just life right? Facts are facts and I'm getting the job and going to do it how I want because it will work. I'll post pics when it's done and you can laugh all you want then.
     
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  15. ddarlak

    ddarlak Trump Hater

    sorry you got your butt hurt, also sorry you can't see why it's funny how your going about it.

    banners, vinyl patterns, it just a joke that the art of how this should be done is lost because the art of signmaking has fallen into the hands of computer geeks...
     
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  16. unclebun

    unclebun Very Active Member

    Just curious how much you would charge for going up with your piece of paper and chalk to grid it out and cut in the outlines. After all, it will only take you a few minutes, right?

    Nobody has told how they would mark the grid on the roof membrane, and make sure that it's square, etc. without damaging the roof.
     
  17. Billct2

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    "Nobody has told how they would mark the grid on the roof membrane, and make sure that it's square, etc. without damaging the roof."
    actually a few people did, and even drew a sketch....it may not take a few minutes, depending on complexity it may take a day or two. Charge accordingly.
    And squaring up something on a commercial roof is very simple, and chalk lines and or whatever is used to fill in won't hurt a roof that can take walking on.
     
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  18. unclebun

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    I guess what I'm saying is I know how to chalk lines, and so on, but you're going to have to make a grid on that 25x150 of what, 5' squares? I've seen it done where you drive a nail in the corner and measure and so on to make the square. But you can't nail on the roof. So how do you get the initial square marked by yourself and know that it's actually square? Or do you just get it close and figure nobody will be able to tell?
     
  19. ddarlak

    ddarlak Trump Hater

    without seeing the actual artwork i can guess it would probably be with a few sheets of coroplast, a box of stabilo's, some string, a grid layout that was based on whatever pattern already existed on the roof. i can assume the roof isn't one piece, so i would use the natural lines on the roof incorporated into the artwork to give me scale. it's not rocket science, any signguy should know how do do this.

    Anyone who thinks this guy is getting 10k for a pattern is out of their skull
     
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  20. Billct2

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    2 people, measure off the edge of the roof to get a horizontal and vertical starting point. Create the rectangle border, you can measure corner to corner to make sure it's square if you want to double check. Then snap your grid. Grids size depends on complexity. Then have a large version of the design on a hard panel, again size depending on complexity and cut it up into manageable panels if needed.
     
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