Okay so hate it was definitely the vote. That works for me. I find that through critique and suggestion one can truly grow and become better. So thanks for the input. Carl, I like the logo you sent, it makes me laugh. Anyways, I will say a few additional things about the logo. 1.Everyone called the squished text amature, and I agree to some extent, but the idea of making the text squished actually came from a seasoned design vet. Anyways, the logo itself is meant to be more of a portfolio piece to bring in clients.The name came about because in the past i have found that people always seem to like the logos i do with stupid businesses names like that. Obviously not in the real world though. I am sure the new info doesnt change anyones mind about the current logo,, but does any one else want to throw their 2 cents in??? Thanks again for all the input everyone!